JoshuaZ comments on A speculation on Near and Far Modes - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JoshuaZ 21 July 2010 12:47:19PM 6 points [-]

A lot of these near mode/far mode claims would make me feel much better if they resulted in concrete, testable claims. If your hypothesis about why cryonics is not popular is correct, what predictions would you make that would be different from other a world where other proposed hypotheses are correct? (The general apparent lack of precise predictions from the near-far mode has been bugging me for a while so this isn't a problem unique to you)

Some people get stuck in a child-like behavioral pattern, probably due to a mix of neurological bugs which prevent near-mode from gelling (aspergers and schizotype)

The remark about Aspergers and schizotypal personalities seems implausible given that there's a fair bit of evidence that autism and schizophrenia are opposite ends of the same spectrum. See for example this paper in PNAS. If this notion of near mode/far mode has any validity, then this sort of claim is much more plausible for autism than for schizotypal disorders.

Comment author: MichaelVassar 21 July 2010 01:18:58PM 7 points [-]

I think the autistic/schizophrenic spectrum looks like a calibration spectrum for one's near-mode tolerance of type 1 and type 2 errors. Deviation from the mean in either direction causes near mode to be substantially less useful.

Comment author: [deleted] 10 February 2012 09:41:04PM 1 point [-]

"I think the autistic/schizophrenic spectrum looks like a calibration spectrum for one's near-mode tolerance of type 1 and type 2 errors. Deviation from the mean in either direction causes near mode to be substantially less useful."

Brilliant idea. Why it received so few upvotes begs for analysis.

Comment author: daedalus2u 25 July 2010 01:47:50PM 1 point [-]

I think this idea is essentially correct, but instead of near-mode vs far-mode, I think the balance is more between a "theory of mind" and a "theory of reality" which I have written about.

http://daedalus2u.blogspot.com/2008/10/theory-of-mind-vs-theory-of-reality.html

The only things that can be communicated are mental concepts. To communicate a concept, the concept needs to be converted into the communication data stream using a communication protocol that can be decoded at the other end of the communication link. The communication protocols that convert mental concepts into language (and back) is what I call the “theory of mind”. A good ToM is necessary for communication, but it can only be used for communicating with a ToM that matches it. If the two ToMs don't match, then they can't be used for communication.

Comment author: daedalus2u 25 July 2010 01:48:25PM 0 points [-]

When the ToMs don't match, I think it triggers xenophobia.

http://daedalus2u.blogspot.com/2010/03/physiology-behind-xenophobia.html

Effectively when people meet and try to communicate, they do a Turing Test, and if the error rate is too high, it triggers feelings of xenophobia via the uncanny valley effect. If you allow your ToM to change to accommodate and understand the person you feel xenophobia for, then the xenophobia will go away. If you don't, then the feelings of xenophobia remain. The decision to allow your ToM to change is what differentiates a non-racist from a racist.