Eneasz comments on Against the standard narrative of human sexual evolution - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eneasz 27 July 2010 09:49:59PM 2 points [-]

In light of many of the negative comments and downvotes, I wanted to express thanks for this post, and I hope you continue the sequence.

I think people delude themselves as to how monogamous they actually are (monogamous-but-had-a-fling-once is NOT monogamous. Monogamous-except-that-three-month-period-we-were-broken-up is NOT monogamous. Generally, even monogamous-with-first-spouse,then-monogamous-with-the-new-spouse isn't considered ACTUAL monogamy. And certainly monogamous-by-circumstance shouldn't really count )

And furthermore, I suspect that the sort of group-mating/iving outlined by Ryan and Jetha could/did provide a real-world mechanic for actual group-selection.

Comment author: Alicorn 27 July 2010 09:54:30PM *  6 points [-]

even monogamous-with-first-spouse, then-monogamous-with-the-new-spouse isn't considered ACTUAL monogamy.

Considered? Who is the arbiter of such things?

Comment author: Eneasz 27 July 2010 10:23:25PM 2 points [-]

Very well, perhaps that was a bit too strongly worded. Allow me to rephrase that as "there is debate as to whether serial-monogamy constitutes monogamy or is a different form of polyamory"

Comment author: ata 27 July 2010 10:58:00PM *  6 points [-]

But is that disagreement about anything more than definitions?

Comment author: Clippy 27 July 2010 10:00:36PM 4 points [-]

I'm the arbiter of such things.

Comment author: WrongBot 27 July 2010 10:27:35PM 2 points [-]

You shouldn't need group selection to explain that sort of thing. (And I'd be very, very suspicious if you did.) Kin selection should be more than enough.

For what it's worth, anthropologists generally consider relationships to be monogamous if they involve paired-living, long-term association, or joint parenting. Sexual fidelity is not a criterion.