according to the monkey brain the death of your values is the end of the world since those other social systems based on other wrong values obviously won't work and will lead to death and destruction ;)
Biology suggests that animals mostly act as though they are concerned with their own inclusive fitness.
This is our monthly thread for collecting arbitrarily contrived scenarios in which somebody gets tortured for 3^^^^^3 years, or an infinite number of people experience an infinite amount of sorrow, or a baby gets eaten by a shark, etc. and which might be handy to link to in one of our discussions. As everyone knows, this is the most rational and non-obnoxious way to think about incentives and disincentives.