dclayh comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 2 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: dclayh 03 August 2010 06:04:15PM 14 points [-]

Just occurred to me: if magic ability is genetic, it should in theory be possible to use gene therapy/retroviruses/etc. (and perhaps some magic) to make all the Muggles into wizards! (Or at least all the ones yet to be conceived or something.) I can just imagine Harry creating a Plague of Magic.

Comment author: LucasSloan 04 August 2010 10:57:54PM 8 points [-]

Almost certainly not in the timeframe of the fic. I think that 1995 was about the first time we successfully used a retrovirus to cure a human disease, and we still don't have the tech to create a contagious disease to do so.

Comment author: dclayh 05 August 2010 01:13:54AM 2 points [-]

Oh, good point. I always forget that HP isn't technically in the present day.

Comment author: knb 05 August 2010 09:53:02PM 3 points [-]

He could easily overwhelm any wizarding army/faction by raising an army of magically enabled Muggles, once he can access the technology. Since there are only tens of thousands of magical people in Britain, just converting 500 muggles to wizards would make Harry the dominant force in the magical world.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 06 August 2010 06:31:40AM 2 points [-]

That's an interesting move, though it leaves out the organizational challenge and the amount of time needed for training.

And it seems unlikely that such a force could be kept secret from the wizarding world....

Comment author: knb 06 August 2010 07:35:03AM 1 point [-]

It's true that it would take many years, but the payoff would be huge. It seems all but inevitable that someone smart (i.e. Harry, Draco, Hermione, Dumbledore, or Quirrelmort) will do it eventually.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 06 August 2010 07:48:07AM 3 points [-]

The payoff would be.... ill-defined.

How sure are you that you can retain control? That one of your more ambitious and inventive upgraded muggles won't try setting up on their own? That one of them won't get hold of your give-wizardry magic and share the wealth?

When you see "So You Want to Be a Wizard" on WikiLeaks, it's too late.

Comment author: Larks 07 August 2010 12:22:28AM 2 points [-]

You could make taking your Mark a price of being given magic.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 03 August 2010 06:34:24PM 3 points [-]

I don't think he likes chaos quite that much.

Comment author: cousin_it 03 August 2010 06:48:22PM *  2 points [-]

Good idea. For some reason I immediately thought about Muggles exterminating wizards with a gene-engineered disease.

Comment author: MartinB 06 August 2010 03:27:36AM 3 points [-]

No! It was pointed out how a wizard has to study hard before doing magic. So magic enabled Muggles would be rather useless or dangerous. No way to raise an army. (Also he would have to be accepted as the leader of an Muggle group)

More interesting is the opposite way, of removing the magic gene or disabling it. A vaccine against magic.