NancyLebovitz comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 2 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 28 August 2010 07:57:56AM -1 points [-]

I'm honestly not sure whether that's a fair reading of Atlas Shrugged.

I recently heard from a woman whose mother died in a fire how infuriating "die in a fire" is. Perhaps it would be kinder to retire it at least until people no longer die in fires.

Comment author: NihilCredo 28 August 2010 09:03:14AM 2 points [-]

By that standard, we should purge our speaking of any and all allusions to traumatic death, i.e. the overwhelming majority of death. I would judge this to be an unreasonable standard; trigger warnings are a good thing when possible, but they are not practical for casual, conversational speech.

This particular case may also be a form of unusually high sensitivity, unless the loss was recent (or particularly traumatic for other reasons, e.g. happened during childhood or the woman nearly died in the fire herself). I lost the majority of my family to various forms of cancer, and nearly everyone I know has had at least one such event, but I still remember "I hope the bastard gets bowel cancer" or similar phrases being a fairly common choice for an extremely venomous insult, and it wouldn't cause so much as a raised eyebrow unless someone's relative were in the process of dying of cancer, or had very recently done so.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 28 August 2010 09:21:35AM 1 point [-]

The death was fairly recent, and took a couple of years. I suppose you could call it dying of a fire rather than in one.

I am really not sure where the limits should be on that sort of speech-- in a public forum of this size, the odds of accidentally stomping on someone's toes go up.