Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 2 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 29 August 2010 03:28:08AM 0 points [-]

Sadly, being not logically omniscient, I am not capable of always perfectly living up to my endeavor to write a story with perfectly consistent rules. There are these things called mistakes.

Comment author: Pavitra 29 August 2010 03:56:45AM *  1 point [-]

Well, yeah, but... you could have tried to fix it, rather than just saying "whoops, guess I messed up".

ETA: I realize that could have sounded petty. The reason I'm making a big deal out of this is that the presence of inconsistencies pretty much shoots to hell our ability as fans to speculate meaningfully about the fic.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 29 August 2010 06:43:08AM 3 points [-]

I feel reluctant to directly contradict canon in this case by having McGonagall not transform the pig, never mind the havoc it wreaks on all neighboring paragraphs. Do you have a different suggested fix?

Comment author: Pavitra 29 August 2010 04:28:20PM *  3 points [-]

I'm partial to adding an incantation and a stern warning.

Edit: It occurs to me that the Animagus transformation doesn't require an incantation either, so that's not a general rule about free vs. non-free Transfiguration, and it's hard to imagine that an incantation like Crystferrium ("Furniporcis"?) wouldn't give away the direction. Just the warning, then.

Comment author: TobyBartels 30 August 2010 12:28:03AM 3 points [-]

Yes, the big thing that's missing is the warning not to try to copy her example. Anything else can be chalked up to the Professor's leet transformation skillz.

Comment author: Sniffnoy 29 August 2010 11:01:05AM 3 points [-]

Pavitra and Caspian's suggestions above seem good.

Comment author: wedrifid 29 August 2010 10:16:25AM *  2 points [-]

I feel reluctant to directly contradict canon in this case by having McGonagall not transform the pig, never mind the havoc it wreaks on all neighboring paragraphs. Do you have a different suggested fix?

"She's McGonagall" is a perfectly acceptable explanation. I had assumed that McGonagall gained the ability to maintain safe transfigurations to living creatures through years of hard work in controlled conditions of the type we gain just a glimpse of when Harry is showing off his new trick. It doesn't seem all that much harder than, say, flying.

Comment author: thomblake 30 August 2010 05:30:40PM *  1 point [-]

I'm definitely in favor of a wizard did it. Word of God might be enough on this one, though a don't try this at home could still be called for.

ETA: TVTropes warning

Comment author: Alicorn 30 August 2010 05:57:47PM 3 points [-]

I'm definitely in favor of a wizard did it.

A witch did it, silly.

Comment author: Pavitra 30 August 2010 05:53:14PM 0 points [-]

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Comment author: thomblake 30 August 2010 06:23:53PM -1 points [-]

fine

Comment author: Pavitra 30 August 2010 06:50:44PM 0 points [-]

Thank you.