katydee comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 2 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: katydee 29 August 2010 06:52:37PM 3 points [-]

I know people who use "tech" for "technique," "grade" for "upgrade," etc. Once you get used to it, it really is more efficient, but at the price of making it more difficult for outsiders to understand what you're saying.

Comment author: ata 30 August 2010 03:43:49AM *  4 points [-]

For a while I've wondered what exactly Robin Hanson is doing (what he's trying to signal, perhaps? I don't know) when he uses abbreviations like "med", "docs", "tech", etc. (Pretty sure there are other common ones not coming to my mind right now.) He doesn't otherwise come off as a lazy writer, he can't really pass for "folksy" (and super-contrarian econblogging isn't quite the right context for that anyway), they aren't difficult or cumbersome words...

Comment author: wedrifid 30 August 2010 04:43:26AM *  0 points [-]

He doesn't otherwise come off as a lazy writer, he can't really pass for "folksy"

It seems to be the titles of his posts and not the content which he likes to keep extremely simple, even trite. I take it as wry counter signalling. There is a touch of ironic contrast between what could superficially look like a naive opinion and reasoning that is in fact based in some measure on sound economic principles, or at least of premises that the intended audience would accept.

Comment author: TobyBartels 30 August 2010 12:32:36AM 2 points [-]

Once you get used to it, it really is more efficient, but at the price of making it more difficult for outsiders to understand what you're saying.

This is the characteristic feature of jargon. (And fanfic has its jargon like anything else.)

Comment author: wnoise 30 August 2010 03:30:45AM 3 points [-]

Some jargon actually isn't much more efficient.

Comment author: Pavitra 30 August 2010 03:32:33AM 2 points [-]

Those terms of jargon are probably being used for ingroup identification.

Comment author: wnoise 30 August 2010 03:37:16AM 0 points [-]

Yes, of course, in the cases that have sprung to my mind.

Comment author: TobyBartels 01 September 2010 12:01:33AM *  1 point [-]

Good point. I hereby amend my comment to say that this is the characteristic feature of useful (or appropriate) jargon. (So now I am making the claim that group identification is neither useful nor appropriate, which of course isn't always true either.)

Comment author: Alicorn 29 August 2010 07:00:29PM 2 points [-]

I've seen "tech" for "technology" but not for "technique". Interesting.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 30 August 2010 10:26:19AM *  3 points [-]

"Tech" is used in Sci*nt*l*gy jargon for the supposed mental technology that they claim to offer, and it raises my suspicions whenever I see it elsewhere. Specifically, the suspicion that the author is speaking in code to insiders, not for mere in-group fuzzies, but to communicate in plain sight of the outside world things that outsiders will not realise are being communicated.

Comment author: katydee 29 August 2010 07:33:19PM 1 point [-]

I've also heard 'nique (neek?) for "technique," which seems less confusing.

Comment author: whpearson 29 August 2010 07:34:22PM 0 points [-]

I've only come across it playing Chrono Trigger not in real life.

Comment author: NihilCredo 30 August 2010 12:23:20PM 0 points [-]

It's also standard jargon in strategy games for any system involving the gradual acquisition of upgrades to your tools through some representation of "research".

Comment author: wedrifid 30 August 2010 03:53:11AM *  1 point [-]

Bah. Those two abbreviations are terrible. People use those? There is no context where tech(nique) is used in which the existing use of tech(nology) wouldn't be appropriate, given that techniques can be considered technology. Why oh why would you not use 'nique' or 'niq'? I suspect I would be willing to signal myself as an outsider so as to avoid sacrificing my dignity like that!

Comment author: Mercy 08 December 2010 07:44:25PM 0 points [-]

I suspect the ambiguity in tech is deliberate, it's trendy in certain circles to reframe habits, attitudes and knowledges as mental technology, the whole life-hacking thing is one example but activists often use a similar jargon (I think it comes from anthropology?) extending it to social techniques (cultural technology) as well. It's maybe an attempt to hijack consumerist/shiny object collecting drives, maybe an attempt to signal practicality.

I have a feeling this technique, of using an abbreviation to refer to an umbrella of concepts which could be abbreviated to that, is quite common, though the only one that springs to mind right now is Trans.