Alicorn comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 2 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: KevinC 30 August 2010 01:24:50AM *  10 points [-]

Though there's logic to this argument, pretty much everything else about the way house elves were made is evil. They're created, or conditioned to brutally torture themselves if they even think they've displeased their masters or broken a rule. They have no labor rights and can be mistreated at will, to the point that mistreatment is built in as a product feature.

We can only imagine what sort of miserable Dickensian conditions they live in when they're not at work. They're forced to wear ragged, salvaged sacks, as giving them clothes = firing them, i.e. denying them the work and subservient position they're designed to want. This is a needless cruelty on top of everything else. Heck, if I were an aristocrat wizard with house elves, I'd want mine to go around in elegant livery, as a demonstration of how magnificent my Estate is. But I couldn't do that, because the poor little creatures were made (modified?) by a sadist.

Comment author: Alicorn 30 August 2010 01:29:49AM 7 points [-]

Heck, if I were an aristocrat wizard with house elves, I'd want mine to go around in elegant livery, as a demonstration of how magnificent my Estate is. But I couldn't do that

You could get them elegantly embroidered little dishtowels clipped into place with stylized sugar tongs made of silver.

Comment author: blogospheroid 31 August 2010 09:47:44AM 1 point [-]

You can't give them clothes, but no one said anything about not giving them ARMOR. Give them fine spider silk armor, it will be indistinguishable from silk.

Comment author: Pavitra 30 August 2010 02:58:06AM 1 point [-]

Hogwarts elves in canon do wear something very much like that.