JoshuaZ comments on AI cooperation in practice - Less Wrong

26 Post author: cousin_it 30 July 2010 04:21PM

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Comment author: JoshuaZ 31 July 2010 05:06:09PM 10 points [-]

Tim, you're making false statements. You've now misapplied both Godel's theorem and Tarski's theorem.You also seem to be under the impression that proof checking is not generally doable in an axiomatic system, which is also wrong. Let me suggest that you simply don't have the background expertise to discuss these issues. These are subtle issues. Indeed, even your above reply runs into new issues (For example having infinitely many axioms doesn't prevent a system of axioms from being effectively generatable. Indeed many well behaved axiomatic systems have axiom schema which do just this.) You may be running into a Dunning-Kruger type problem. I'm a professional mathematician (ok, a grad student but close enough for this purpose), and I find these issues difficult. Vladimir, I and others have pointed out what is wrong with your reasoning but you don't seem to be following the explanations. Please take a logic course or read a textbook.

Comment author: cousin_it 31 July 2010 05:35:22PM 2 points [-]

Seconded.