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40 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 15 March 2009 06:43AM

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Comment author: knb 15 March 2009 07:48:34AM *  19 points [-]

You are describing old clinical psychology. Its gotten so much better. Rorschach tests are now only a very marginal measure within psychoanalytic psychology. Psychoanalytic/pscyhodynamic psychologists are themselves outcasts from mainstream clinical psychology, which is increasingly centered around evidence-based practice. For example, behaviorists are using systematic desensitization in novel and effective ways (for treating things like panic disorder), and cognitive-behavioral therapy is quite effective in treating depression: significantly more so than antidepressants.

The important thing to remember is that patients often get the treatment they want. If you're a self-absorbed neurotic, and you want to spend an hour a week for years talking about yourself, you can find someone who will take your money. If you want effective treatment, you can find that too. Most patients don't want to get better, they want to feel like they are doing something, and especially they want to talk about themselves.

Comment author: komponisto 15 March 2009 04:36:16PM *  12 points [-]

The important thing to remember is that patients often get the treatment they want. If you're a self-absorbed neurotic, and you want to spend an hour a week for years talking about yourself, you can find someone who will take your money. [...] Most patients don't want to get better [...] they want to talk about themselves.

Perhaps unwittingly, this comment suggests wherein the value of such psychotherapy lies. There's a social taboo against talking about oneself in this fashion, and a place that is "safe" from this (and other) conversational taboos may well be worth paying for.