MartinB comments on The Threat of Cryonics - Less Wrong

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Comment author: MartinB 04 August 2010 11:45:16PM 6 points [-]

Thank you for answering.

I find it strange how society at large frowns upon cryo, while also not doing a serious effort to prolong the healthy lifespan (wallbangerific). But on the other side frowns upon suicide.

I also usually avoid the topic due to its iffyness, and i am not signed up myself yet, so its basically armchairing anyway.

I think Matt got a point. And of course if you go into the search for your real reasons all kinds of bad things might happen for you.

But what jumped me, was that a long lifespan is fine, while a long lifespan with a coma/pause in the middle is not. I dont get that.

Of course cryo people would love to take their loved ones with them, and are horrified when they ignore the chance.

Comment author: TobyBartels 05 August 2010 03:56:45AM *  4 points [-]

while also not doing a serious effort to prolong the healthy lifespan (wallbangerific)

I agree with that! I'm interested in the work by Aubrey de Grey. It's not useful to me now, but I predict that someday it will be.

But what jumped me, was that a long lifespan is fine, while a long lifespan with a coma/pause in the middle is not. I dont get that.

Well, I don't suppose that there are many people who feel that way. If you can get across the idea that cryonics is a way of turning one's death into a very long coma, then that may help make it more attractive.

But I get up in the morning because there are things that I left unfinished the day before. By the time that I am revived from cryonics, they will all be finished.

Of course cryo people would love to take their loved ones with them, and are horrified when they ignore the chance.

If my loved ones signed up for cryonics, that would be reason enough for me.

Comment author: byrnema 05 August 2010 04:32:28PM 3 points [-]

Well, I don't suppose that there are many people who feel that way. If you can get across the idea that cryonics is a way of turning one's death into a very long coma, then that may help make it more attractive.

Yes. Exploring how people would feel about a very long coma could be a good way of exploring how they feel about cryonics-minus-the-creep-factor. In other words, if they didn't have the psychological obstacles centered around cryonics, how would they really feel about it?

Comment author: lsparrish 05 August 2010 12:02:05AM 3 points [-]

I also usually avoid the topic due to its iffyness, and i am not signed up myself yet, so its basically armchairing anyway.

I am starting to wonder if there needs to be more of a recognized social niche for cryo supporters who aren't signed up themselves (or whose arrangements simply are not public).

Comment author: MartinB 05 August 2010 12:24:26AM 4 points [-]

My niche is young people with little money living in Europe. To sign up I need to a) make money - which will happen soon b) figure out how the necessary arrangements for germany regarding transport, legal and what not, c) get the paperwork. After the writing the earlier comment I got another reality-shock about how stupid it is that society at large doesnt jump on the longevity issue. Way worse than smoking....