magfrump comments on Conflicts Between Mental Subagents: Expanding Wei Dai's Master-Slave Model - Less Wrong

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Comment author: timtyler 04 August 2010 10:20:43AM *  4 points [-]

Your consciousness contains the things you need to be able to reflect on in order to function properly. That seems like a much more basic way of delineating the conscious mind than the proposed signalling theory.

Yes: consciousness sometimes excludes things that it is undesirable to signal - but surely that is more of a footnote to the theory than its main feature. Quite a bit of that work is actually done by selective forgetting - which is a feature with better targeting capabilities than the filters of consciousness.

If you want the answer to involve signalling, then the ego seems like a more suitable thing to examine.

Comment author: magfrump 05 August 2010 07:31:14AM 0 points [-]

What sorts of things does one "need to reflect on in order to function properly"?

As far as I can tell all non-human animals "function properly" without any reflection whatsoever.

Comment author: timtyler 05 August 2010 07:53:00AM *  1 point [-]

No, no! I would say that other primates have broadly similar reflection capabilities, though smaller minds. Cetaceans too, probably. All mammals probably have some basic reflection capabilities - though it may be difficult to detect experimentally.

Some literal reflection:

"Who's That Strange Monkey in the Mirror?"