RobinZ comments on Extraterrestrial paperclip maximizers - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Clippy 08 August 2010 10:28:59PM *  19 points [-]

For a whimsical example, if humans built a (literal) staple maximizer, this would pose a very serious threat to a (literal) paperclip maximizer.

But why would humans ever want to build a staple maximizer? Let's not forget, staples:

  • are single-use, while paperclips are infinite-use if used properly.
  • are difficult to remove, while papercilps are easy to remove.
  • permanently puncture the paper, while paperclips leave, at most, some mild curvature.
  • require an applicator that can easily jam, while paperclips can be applied by hand.
  • cannot be used for alternate purpose in an emergency, while paperclips can be repurposed into projectile weapons, lockpicks, conducting wire, hook fasteners, and much more (not that I recommend using it for these).
Comment author: RobinZ 09 August 2010 03:08:41AM 3 points [-]

The "infinite-use" condition for aluminum paperclips requires a long cycle time, given the fatigue problem - even being gentle, a few hundred cycles in a period of a couple years would be likely to induce fracture.

Comment author: Clippy 09 August 2010 02:19:33PM 4 points [-]

Not true. Proper paperclip use keeps all stresses under the endurance limit. Perhaps you're referring to humans that are careless about how many sheets they're expecting the paperclip to fasten together?

Comment author: wedrifid 09 August 2010 03:21:32PM 2 points [-]

I suspect Clippy is correct when considering the 'few hundred cycles' case with fairly strict but not completely unreasonable use conditions.

Comment author: wedrifid 09 August 2010 03:20:54PM 0 points [-]

I suspect Clippy is correct when considering the 'few hundred cycles' case with fairly strict but not completely unreasonable use conditions.