Vladimir_Golovin comments on Closet survey #1 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vladimir_Golovin 14 March 2009 08:13:28PM *  2 points [-]

I think it would be a good idea to create a sister website on the same codebase as LW specifically for discussing this topic.

Comment author: AnnaSalamon 18 March 2009 07:33:33AM *  5 points [-]

Strikes me as an idea worth considering. If we had a sister website where AGI/singularity could be talked about, we could keep a separate rationalist community even after May. The AGI/singularity-allowed sister site could take OB and LW discussion as prerequisite material that commenters could be expected to have read, but not vice versa.

Comment author: CarlShulman 18 March 2009 08:22:58AM *  3 points [-]

I endorse this proposal.

Comment author: MichaelHoward 18 March 2009 07:48:18PM 1 point [-]

But then, in the still-censored site, we still wouldn't be able to mention AGI/singularity in a response, even if it would be highly relevant.

A possible solution could be to have click-setable topic flags on posts and comments when bringing up topics that...

  • Are worth discussing
  • Are likely to be, fairly frequently
  • Lots of people would really rather they weren't

...and readers can switch topics off in Options, boosting signal/noise ratio for the uninterested while allowing the interested to discuss freely. Comments would inherit parent's flags by default.

Possible flaggable topics:

  • Friendly AI/Singularitarianism
  • Libertarian politics
  • Simulism
  • Meta-discussion about possible LW changes
Comment author: Nick_Tarleton 18 March 2009 08:31:54PM 5 points [-]

Another idea, more generally applicable: the ability to reroot comment threads under a different post, leaving a link to the new location.

Comment author: CarlShulman 18 March 2009 07:58:32PM 5 points [-]

My conception of the proposal was that the LW ban could be relaxed enough to allow use of relevant examples for rationality discussions, but not non-rationality posts about AI and the like.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 18 March 2009 08:29:17PM 1 point [-]

I thought the same.

Comment author: MichaelHoward 18 March 2009 08:51:16PM *  2 points [-]

My conception of the proposal was that the LW ban could be relaxed enough to allow use of relevant examples for rationality discussions, but not non-rationality posts about AI and the like.

I thought that was what was planned already (after May). I was responding to AnnaSalamon:

If we had a sister website where AGI/singularity could be talked about, we could keep a separate rationalist community even after May. The AGI/singularity-allowed sister site could...

I took that to mean keeping LW separate from AGI/singularity discussion, or why say 'even after May'? Someone please explain if I misunderstood as I'm now most confused!

Comment author: CarlShulman 19 March 2009 03:18:18AM 2 points [-]

I think Anna wants to use the LW codebase to create a group blog to examine AGI/Singularity/FAI issues of concern to SIAI, even if they are not directly rationality-related. I think that's a good plan for SIAI.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 19 March 2009 12:24:39AM 1 point [-]

Does the ban apply to Newcomb-like problems with simplifying Omegas?

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