MugaSofer comments on Closet survey #1 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: MugaSofer 13 January 2013 11:03:45PM *  0 points [-]

I agree with everything you said, but I think it's worth noting:

IIRC, there's an Australian jellyfish with venom so painful that one of the symptoms is begging for death After it wears off, though, preferences regarding death revert to normal. I would argue torture is equivalent to wireheading with regards to preferences, only inverted. So "tortured!me would accept death if offered" need not contradict "current!me should not accept death over torture".

Comment author: MugaSofer 13 January 2013 11:39:58PM -1 points [-]

The jellyfish I had in mind is Carukia barnesi, which causes irukandji syndrome. Wikipedia seems to imply the "begging for death" aspect may actually be a separate biochemical phenomenon, but the source provided doesn't actually claim this - just that sufferers feel "anxious" and a "sense of impending doom".