XiXiDu comments on Should I believe what the SIAI claims? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: XiXiDu 15 August 2010 11:11:46AM -1 points [-]

But then it occurred to me that anyone invoking a phrase like 'leaving their design space'...

I've no idea (formally) of what a 'design space' actually is. This is a tactic I'm frequently using against strongholds of argumentation that are seemingly based on expertise. I use their own terminology and rearrange it into something that sounds superficially clever. I like to call it a Chinese room approach. Sometimes it turns out that all they were doing was to sound smart but cannot explain themselves when faced with their own terminology set to inquire about their pretences.

I thank you however for taking the time to actually link to further third party information that will substantiate given arguments for anyone not trusting the whole of LW without it.

Comment author: gwern 15 August 2010 11:15:12AM 1 point [-]

I see. Does that actually work for you? (Note that your answer will determine whether I mentally re-categorize you from 'interested open-minded outsider' to 'troll'.)

Comment author: XiXiDu 15 August 2010 11:34:27AM *  4 points [-]

It works against cults and religion in general. I don't argue with them about their religion being not even wrong but rather accept their terms and highlight inconsistencies within their own framework by going as far as I can with one of their arguments and by inquiring about certain aspects based on their own terminology until they are unable to consistently answer or explain where I am wrong.

This also works with the anti GM-food bunch, data protection activists, hippies and many other fringe groups. For example, the data protection bunch concerned with information disclosure on social networks or Google Streetview. Yes, I say, that's bad, burglar could use such services to check out your house! I wonder what evidence there is for the increase of burglary in the countries where Streetview is already available for many years?

Or I tell the anti-gun lobbyists how I support their cause. It's really bad if anyone can buy a gun. Can you point me to the strong correlation between gun ownership and firearm homicides? Thanks.