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Comment author: timtyler 21 August 2010 07:09:57PM * 5 points [-]

A) doesn't seem to be quoted verbatim from the supplied reference!

There is some somewhat similar material there - but E.Y. is reading out a question that has been submitted by a reader! Misquoting him while he is quoting someone else doesn't seem to be very fair!

[Edit: please note the parent has been dramatically edited since this response was made]

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Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 22 August 2010 11:49:18PM 3 points [-]

You should not use quotation marks unless the quotes are verbatim. The "gist" does not suffice.

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Comment author: Emile 23 August 2010 09:03:46AM 3 points [-]

I haven't followed the ins and the outs of this pointless drama, but I had assumed those were things Eliezer actually said. I'm pretty miffed to learn that those weren't actually quotes, but rather something you had "inferred from revealed self-evident wisdom".

That kind of stuff makes it tempting to pretty much ignore anything you write.

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Comment author: Emile 23 August 2010 12:39:08PM * 3 points [-]

I listened to the video. He said that while reading aloud a question someone was asking him.

I'm not objecting to the reformulation in your now modified post. I'm just pissed that you made me believe that it was an actual Eliezer Yudkowsky quote.

Comment author: XiXiDu 23 August 2010 01:11:41PM * 0 points [-]

He said that while reading aloud a question someone was asking him.

Look, I didn't know that everything within these "" symbols is taken to be the verbatim quotation of someone. I use them all the time to highlight or mark whatever I see fit. And the answers I wrote to the questions he has been asked resemble the gist of what he said. I simply didn't expect anyone to believe that I transcribed two +4 minute videos which I linked to right after. I also never made anyone believe anything controversial. It is something that I think is widely accepted within this community anyway and it is what he said in the videos, although more long-winded.

Comment author: Airedale 23 August 2010 02:45:45PM 6 points [-]

Look, I didn't know that everything within these "" symbols is taken to be the verbatim quotation of someone. I use them all the time to highlight or mark whatever I see fit.

The "blog" of "unnecessary" quotation marks

But on a more "serious" note, when the implication is that you're "quoting" someone, and you're "using" quotation marks, "readers" will generally interpret the marks as quoting rather than "highlighting."

Comment author: XiXiDu 23 August 2010 04:06:26PM * 8 points [-]

Look, I'm quite often an idiot. I was looking for excuses while being psychologically overwhelmed today. If people here perceived that I did something wrong there, I probably did. I was just being lazy and imprudent so I wrote what I thought was the answer given by EY to the question posed in that part of a Q&A video series. There was no fraudulent intent on my part.

So please accept my apologies for possible misguidance and impoliteness. I'm just going to delete the comment now. (ETA: I'll just leave the links to the videos.)

I'm trying for some time now to not getting involved on here anymore and to get back to being a passive reader. But replies make me feel constrained to answer once more.

If there is something else, let me know and I'll just delete it.

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