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Biologists have DNA samples of every known species.
Ok, but how much value would it place on an organism which wasn't adapted to the modelers environment, as demonstrated by the fact that it was selected against and went extinct?
OK, but what reason, other than status quo bias, is there to prefer one result over the other?
If so, then protecting that species is in the interests of the human population in question, and it then becomes of question of how best to serve their human interests. But that doesn't get you anywhere as far as biodiversity, in and of itself, having instrumental value.
You probably mean price, not cost... but what does that have to do with anything? We're trying to establish that biodiversity has a utilitarian purpose... how does this address that? If something is useless, who cares how much supply of it there is, or how it's priced?
This is just begging the question
I agree that non human sentient species deserve protection, both because their existence has utility (in understanding the phenomenon of intelligence), and because I consider the protection of sentient life to be a terminal value. But what does that have to do with "biodiversity"?
We were? Pardon me, my mistake. Please consider anything I wrote on the subject retracted. I'm a conscientious objector to utilitarianism.
If biodiversity is a terminal value of yours, then I can absolutely respect that, to exactly the same degree as anybody else's terminal values. But the commenter I was replying to clearly seemed to be arguing that biodiversity has instrumental value.
I reference here only the difference between Utilitarianism and Consequentialism (with the former being often referenced but largely naive).
Come to think of it if 'providing happiness or pleasure as summed among all sentient beings' is actually the measure of instrumental value then you really only need a dozen species of plant and you've got all the 'happiness and pleasure' humans are likely to need.