BrianScurfield comments on Taking Ideas Seriously - Less Wrong

51 Post author: Will_Newsome 13 August 2010 04:50PM

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Comment author: Larks 23 August 2010 11:15:45PM *  2 points [-]

Human beings are universal knowledge creators: they can create any knowledge that any other knowledge creator can create.

In what sense do you mean this exactly, and what evidence for it do you have? I've spoken to people like Elliot, but all they said was things like 'humans can function as a Turing Machine by laboureously manipulating symbols'. Which is nice, but not really relevant to anything in real-time.

On a more general note, you should probably try to be a little clearer: 'conjectures and refutations' doesn't really pick out any particular strategy from strategy-space, and neither does the phrase 'explanation' pick out anything in particular. Additionally, 'induction' is sufficiently different from what people normally think of as myths that it could do with some elaboration.

Similarly, some of these issues we do take seriously; we know we're fallible, and it sounds like you don't know what we mean by probability.

Finally, welcome to Less Wrong!

Edit: People, don't downvote the parent; there's no reason to scare the newbies.

Comment author: [deleted] 17 November 2010 12:40:38PM *  0 points [-]

Elliot has informed me that he doesn't think he said: "humans can function as a Turing Machine by laboriously manipulating symbols", except possibly in reply to a very specific question like "Give a short proof that humans have computational universality".

Why do you say "people like Ellliot"? Elliot has his own views on things and shouldn't be conflated with people who you think are like him. It seems to me you don't understand his ideas so wouldn't know what the people who are like him are like.