For example, in a Newcomb-type problem, suppose I decide to resolve the question of one box or two by flipping a coin? Unless I am supposed to believe that Omega can foretell the results of future coin flips, I think the scenario collapses. Has anyone written anything on LW about responding to Omega by randomizing?
Yes, back when we discussed Newcomblike problems frequently I more or less used a form letter to reply to that objection. Any useful treatment of Newcomblike problems will specify explicitly or implicitly how Omega will handle (quantum) randomness if it is allowed. The obvious response for Omega is to either give you nothing (or maybe a grenade!) for being a smart ass or, more elegantly, handle the reward given in commensurate manner to the probabilities. If probabilistic decisions are to be allowed then an Omega that can handle probabilistic decisions quite clearly needs to be supplied.
Thanks for posting. Your analysis is an improvement over the LW conventional wisdom, but you still doesn't get it right, where right, to me, means the way it is analyzed by the guys who won all those Nobel prizes in economics.
I downvoted the parent. How on earth is Perplexed comparing LW conventional wisdom to that of Nobel prize winning economists when he thinks coin tossing is a big deal?
Any useful treatment of Newcomblike problems will specify explicitly or implicitly how Omega will handle (quantum) randomness.
At the risk of appearing stupid, I have to ask: exactly what is a "useful treatment of Newcomb-like problems" used for?
So far, the only effect that all the Omega-talk has had on me is to make me honestly suspect that you guys must be into some kind of mind-over-matter quantum woo.
Seriously, Omega is not just counterfactual, he is impossible. Why do you guys keep asking us to believe so many impossible things before ...
A common background assumption on LW seems to be that it's rational to act in accordance with the dispositions one would wish to have. (Rationalists must WIN, and all that.)
E.g., Eliezer:
And more recently, from AdamBell:
Within academic philosophy, this is the position advocated by David Gauthier. Derek Parfit has constructed some compelling counterarguments against Gauthier, so I thought I'd share them here to see what the rest of you think.
First, let's note that there definitely are possible cases where it would be "beneficial to be irrational". For example, suppose an evil demon ('Omega') will scan your brain, assess your rational capacities, and torture you iff you surpass some minimal baseline of rationality. In that case, it would very much be in your interests to fall below the baseline! Or suppose you're rewarded every time you honestly believe the conclusion of some fallacious reasoning. We can easily multiply cases here. What's important for now is just to acknowledge this phenomenon of 'beneficial irrationality' as a genuine possibility.
This possibility poses a problem for the Eliezer-Gauthier methodology. (Quoting Eliezer again:)
The problem, obviously, is that it's possible for irrational agents to receive externally-generated rewards for their dispositions, without this necessarily making their downstream actions any more 'reasonable'. (At this point, you should notice the conflation of 'disposition' and 'choice' in the first quote from Eliezer. Rachel does not envy Irene her choice at all. What she wishes is to have the one-boxer's dispositions, so that the predictor puts a million in the first box, and then to confound all expectations by unpredictably choosing both boxes and reaping the most riches possible.)
To illustrate, consider (a variation on) Parfit's story of the threat-fulfiller and threat-ignorer. Tom has a transparent disposition to fulfill his threats, no matter the cost to himself. So he straps on a bomb, walks up to his neighbour Joe, and threatens to blow them both up unless Joe shines his shoes. Seeing that Tom means business, Joe sensibly gets to work. Not wanting to repeat the experience, Joe later goes and pops a pill to acquire a transparent disposition to ignore threats, no matter the cost to himself. The next day, Tom sees that Joe is now a threat-ignorer, and so leaves him alone.
So far, so good. It seems this threat-ignoring disposition was a great one for Joe to acquire. Until one day... Tom slips up. Due to an unexpected mental glitch, he threatens Joe again. Joe follows his disposition and ignores the threat. BOOM.
Here Joe's final decision seems as disastrously foolish as Tom's slip up. It was good to have the disposition to ignore threats, but that doesn't necessarily make it good idea to act on it. We need to distinguish the desirability of a disposition to X from the rationality of choosing to do X.