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Comment author: cata 17 August 2010 03:37:19PM 6 points [-]

I don't really understand your greater argument. Inaction (e.g. sitting on Earth, not pursuing AI, not pursuing growth) is not morally neutral. By failing to act, we're risking suffering in various ways; insufficiency of resources on the planet, political and social problems, or a Singularity perpetrated by actors who are not acting in the interest of humanity's values. All of these could potentially result in the non-existence of all the future actors we're discussing. That's got to be first and foremost in any discussion of our moral responsibility toward them.

We can't opt out of shaping the universe, so we ought to do a good a job as we can as per our values. The more powerful humanity is, the more options are open to us, and the better for our descendants to re-evaluate our choices and further steer our future.

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Comment author: cata 17 August 2010 05:21:42PM *  5 points [-]

If we can't stop entropy, then we can't stop entropy, but I still don't see why our descendants should be less able to deal with this fact than we are. We appreciate living regardless, and so may they.

Surely posthuman entities living at the 10^20 year mark can figure out much more accurately than us whether it's ethical to continue to grow and/or have children at that point.

As far as I can tell, the single real doomsday scenario here is, what if posthumans are no longer free to commit suicide, but they nevertheless continue to breed; heat death is inevitable, and life in a world with ever-decreasing resources is a fate worse than death. That would be pretty bad, but the first and last seem to me unlikely enough, and all four conditions are inscrutable enough from our limited perspective that I don't see a present concern.