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Upvoted for being clever.
You've (probably) refuted the original statement as an absolute.
You're deciding not to engage the issue of hubris directly.
Does the following paraphrase your position:
Here's what I (and also part of SIAI) intend to work on
I think it's very important (and you should think so for reasons outline in my writings)
If you agree with me, you should support us
? If so, I think it's fine for you to not say the obvious (that you're being quite ambitious, and that success is not assured). It seems like some people are really dying to hear you say the obvious.
Success is not assured. I'm not sure what's meant by confessing to being "ambitious". Is it like being "optimistic"? I suppose there are people who can say "I'm being optimistic" without being aware that they are instantiating Moore's Paradox but I am not one of them.
I also disclaim that I do not believe myself to be the protagonist, because the world is not a story, and does not have a plot.
I hope that the double negative in the last sentence was an error.
I introduced the term "protagonist", because at that point we were discussing a hypothetical person who was being judged regarding his belief in a set of three propositions. Everyone recognized, of course, who that hypothetical person represented, but the actual person had not yet stipulated his belief in that set of propositions.
Interesting. I don't claim great grammatical expertise but my reading puts the last question at reasonable. Am I correct in inferring that you do not believe Eliezer's usage of "I also disclaim" to mean "I include the following disclaimer: " is valid?
Regarding 'protagonist' there is some context for the kind of point Eliezer likes to make about protagonist/story thinking in his Harry Potter fanfic. I don't believe he has expressed the concept coherently as a post yet. (I don't see where you introduced the 'protagonist' word so don't know whether Eliezer read you right. I'm just throwing some background in.)
Regarding "disclaim".
I read "disclaim" as a synonym for "deny". I didn't even consider your interpretation, but upon consideration, I think I prefer it.
My mistake (again!). :(
This question is best solved by a dictionary. "I disclaim that I am a blegg" means that I am not a blegg; "Disclaimer: I am a blegg" means that I am a blegg. The use of disclaimer in the second statement is describing the following statement: "I am making a claim that denies something: I am a blegg."
Take home message: Eliezer's double negative means his post has the opposite effect of what I hope he intended.
Yes, that was exactly the sense of "ambitious" I intended - the second person sneering one, which when used by oneself, would be more about signaling humility than truth. I see that's not your style.