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Uh, no it doesn't, and in fact this appears to be an actual lie (EDIT: Nope, cache issue) rather than the RotN page being changed since you checked it.
Before you start flinging accusations around, perhaps check, reconsider - or get a second opinion?
To clarify, for me, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture_of_the_Nerds still gives me:
Maybe Adelene meant that "now" is an untruth, in that it implies a change occurring between the timestamp of the comment you reply to and the reply itself. A truthful observation would "RotN has always redirected to a page that, etc."
The implication that you refer to is based on a simple misunderstanding of my comment - and does not represent a "lie" on my part.
Harumpf.
Adelene, you are still being very discourteous!
I recommend that you calm down, try to be polite - and go a bit easier in the future on the baseless accusations and recriminations.
Wait, did you really mean "no, the page has always redirected there" instead of "no, the page does not, in fact, redirect there"?
"A page that is extremely similar to X" implies "a page that is not X", assuming normal use of the English language. The rapture of the nerds page has always led to the technological singularity page, and the technological singularity page is not a page that is not the technological singularity page.
Reading the relevant comment with the strictest possible definitions of all the terms, it's technically correct, but the way that the comment is structured implies an interpretation other than the one that is true, and it could easily have been structured in a way that wouldn't imply such an interpretation.
Huh. Put like that, I guess I understand now, but it seems as though your refutation could also have been more clear on that point. Thanks for the disentangling!
The pages are subtly different - in the way I described in detail in my original comment. Count the words in the first sentence - the one starting: "A technological singularity is..." to see the difference.
My guess is that a Wikipedia "redirect" allows for a prefix header to be prepended, which would explain the difference.
All four versions of the page - redirect and not, secure and not - start with the same two sentences for me: "A technological singularity is a hypothetical event. It will occur if technological progress becomes so rapid and the growth of super-human intelligence so great that the future (after the singularity) becomes qualitatively different and harder to predict."
I suspect you have a cache issue.
That seems likely. I used http://hidemyass.com/proxy/ - and it gives a more consistent picture.