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Comment author: timtyler 15 May 2011 06:55:21AM *  0 points [-]

The pages are subtly different - in the way I described in detail in my original comment. Count the words in the first sentence - the one starting: "A technological singularity is..." to see the difference.

My guess is that a Wikipedia "redirect" allows for a prefix header to be prepended, which would explain the difference.

Comment author: AdeleneDawner 15 May 2011 07:15:01AM 1 point [-]

All four versions of the page - redirect and not, secure and not - start with the same two sentences for me: "A technological singularity is a hypothetical event. It will occur if technological progress becomes so rapid and the growth of super-human intelligence so great that the future (after the singularity) becomes qualitatively different and harder to predict."

I suspect you have a cache issue.

Comment author: timtyler 15 May 2011 07:39:40AM *  0 points [-]

That seems likely. I used http://hidemyass.com/proxy/ - and it gives a more consistent picture.

Comment author: [deleted] 15 May 2011 07:51:58AM *  1 point [-]

Much time could have been saved had you copied and pasted the two diverging sentences rather than asking people to count the words. For indeed there was a recent change in the page, and if this was the source of the difference, then had you provided the exact sentences then the cause could have been determined quickly, avoiding a lot of back and forth.

Copying and pasting from a comparison, the slightly earlier version is:

A '''technological singularity''' is a hypothetical event occurring when technological progress becomes so rapid and the growth of super-human intelligence is so great that the future after the singularity becomes qualitatively different and harder to predict.

The slightly more recent version is:

A '''technological singularity''' is a hypothetical event.

The rest of the earlier sentence was split off into separate sentences.

Comment author: wedrifid 15 May 2011 08:51:11AM 0 points [-]

Much time could have been saved had you copied and pasted the two diverging sentences rather than asking people to count the words.

Not that I am necessarily one to talk but much time could have been saved if nobody argued about such an irrelevant technicality. ;)

Comment author: [deleted] 15 May 2011 10:38:07AM 1 point [-]

It was the key and only evidence in an accusation of lying, which is a pretty damn serious accusation that should neither be taken lightly nor made lightly. The evidence was small but the role it played in the accusation made it important. If your point is that the accuser should have held their tongue so to speak, you may be right. But they didn't, and so the question took on importance.

Comment author: wedrifid 15 May 2011 10:44:14AM 2 points [-]

It was the key and only evidence in an accusation of lying, which is a pretty damn serious accusation that should neither be taken lightly nor made lightly. The evidence was small but the role it played in the accusation made it important. If your point is that the accuser should have held their tongue so to speak, you may be right. But they didn't, and so the question took on importance.

Yes, responding to accusations of lying is important. Making them, not so much. :)

Comment author: AdeleneDawner 15 May 2011 07:44:45AM 0 points [-]

*nods* *edits ancestral comment*