Khoth comments on The Smoking Lesion: A problem for evidential decision theory - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Khoth 23 August 2010 01:26:16PM -2 points [-]

I think the difference is that your disposition to one-box or two-box is something you can decide to change. Whether you were born with a lesion is not.

Comment author: Unknowns 23 August 2010 01:42:49PM *  2 points [-]

When you are standing there, and there is either a million in the box or there isn't, can you change whether or not there is a million in the box?

No, no more than whether you were born with a lesion or not. The argument, "I should smoke, because if I have the lesion I have it whether or not I smoke" is exactly the same as the argument "I should take two boxes, because if the million is there, it is there whether or not I take two boxes."

Comment author: thomblake 23 August 2010 05:36:54PM 1 point [-]

I agree, insofar as I think "I should not smoke" is true as long as I'm also allowed to say "I should not have the lesion".

The problem is I think running into the proper use of 'should'. We'd need to draw very sharp lines around the things we pretend that we can or cannot control for purposes of that word.

Basically, you end up with a black-box concept containing some but not all of the machinery that led up to your decision such that words like 'should' and 'control' apply to the workings of the black box and not to anything else. And then we can decide whether it's sensible to ask 'should I smoke' in Smoking Lesion and 'should I one-box' in Newcomb.

Right now I don't have a good enough handle on this model to draw those lines, and so don't have an answer to this puzzle.