red75 comments on Minimum computation and data requirements for consciousness. - Less Wrong

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Comment author: red75 24 August 2010 08:52:46PM *  0 points [-]

Self-model theory of subjectivity can also suggest

(7) Ability to explicitly represent state of our own knowledge, intentions, focus of attention etc. Ability to analyse performance of our own brain and find ways to circumvent limitations. Ability to control brain's resource allocation by learned (vs evolved) procedures.

The consciousness stuff is about thinking that maps really match up to territory.

Interesting thing about consciousness is that the map is a part of territory it describes, and as the map should be represented by neuronal connections and activity it can presumable influence territory.

Comment author: daedalus2u 24 August 2010 09:38:49PM 1 point [-]

Yes, and 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 and 7 all require data and computation resources.

And to compare a map with a territory one needs a map (i.e. data) and a comparator (i.e. a pattern recognition device) and needs computational resources to compare the data with the territory using the comparator.

When one is thinking about internal states, the map, the territory and the comparator are all internal. That they are internal does not obviate the need for them.