Well, we all survived, and only one injury (a tooth). It was pretty awesome, all told. We trecked through a dust storm with 5ft visibility and ran into another group of Bayesians in the Sandstorm, forming an epic fellowship.
Next year, of course, will be even better. We might even remember to bring cutlery.
Excellent! Where was this other group camped?
For the record, I didn't need to find my fellow conspirators; they found me. I was sitting though some of Future Camp's lectures when I found myself surrounded by hooded figures, familiar symbols drawn on their garbs. They lured me off to their camp, leaving behind JustinShovelain to collect information in my absence. We all played a sleepy game of Nomic in the shade, and meanwhile I may have been an unwitting pawn in a larger, life-or-death game concerning paperclips. It was very pleasant!
With meetup threads the trend tends to be to up vote people for showing enthusiasm, or just for saying they're going. Maybe up voters justify this as way to encourage people to be vocal about participation, but I doubt the up voters are thinking that far ahead. More likely: people excited about a meetup up vote people that seem excited.
With meetup threads the trend tends to be to up vote people for showing enthusiasm, or just for saying they're going. Maybe up voters justify this as way to encourage people to be vocal about participation, but I doubt the up voters are thinking that far ahead. More likely: people excited about a meetup up vote people that seem excited.
Now I've written certain unfinished and unpublished stories set in Brennan's world, so I know there's an Erotic Conspiracy and that it's called the Erotic Conspiracy, but may I inquire as to how you know there's such a thing as the Erotic Conspiracy when Google shows that the first reference on LW is in this very thread? Lucky guess, or did the information escape some other way?
I'll be attending as well (A reminder: My real name is Zachary Vance). I will be flying in on the 29th to Reno and leaving the 8th. If anyone wants to meet up for rideshare, I'd be pleased. Post a comment here, or call me: (513) 549-5690.
I hope the costuming is serious. Now I want to wear white noise so people know who I am. P.S. Is there a way to get email notifications for responses to a comment? This would be terribly handy.
Edit: Also, if anyone would care to share a tent, it would be helpful to know today, the 28th. I would save $50 in check-on.
I will be there! Also, if you want to be part of a village next year, The Playagon would totally welcome Bayes Camp! (We'll have discussions and lectures thanks to Future Camp, and mine, The Time Colony, is a "Resource Center for the Temporally Dislocated". We do a Historical Preenactment. Serious Stuff.) We'll be on Athens between 9:30 and 10.
“A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.” ~ Robert Heinlein
Do you think Mr. Heinlein could do all this stuff? I don't think he could. I most certainly can't.
Being able to die gallantly doesn't imply that you should or will die gallantly, only that, should the necessity arise...
Unfortunately, Heinlein reportedly refused cryonics (offered without cost to him, if I recall correctly) because he believed it might interfere with reincarnation. From reading the just-out first volume of his biography, it seems quite likely that he was serious.
Do you think Mr. Heinlein could do all this stuff?
Yes I do. He was a naval lieutenant. He and his third wife designed their own house. It's a broad set of skills but not amazingly broad. Anyone who is both book-smart and has spent time in highly physical occupations should have a similar spread.
That quote needs it's punchline! Specialization is for insects.
It's also easy to think that you know how to do all of those things, if you read instruction manuals and never have an opportunity to find out that you're wrong.
Also, I'm working on it. I'll skip on the dying part though.
Actually, there are more layers of deniability than that.
Lazarus Long may have said that, but he may or may not have believed it. He was encouraged to just talk, and he very clearly wasn't putting together a codified system of what he believed. Also, he was known to lie.
And we don't have a full transcript of what he was supposed to have said-- it was a computer-edited compendium of advice, and the computer may have had her own agenda.
Did Heinlein believe everything in the Notebooks of Lazarus Long was good advice? Or was some of it just characterization?
Getting back to the book, LL had longer to acquire skills than ordinary humans.
And, for a counter-argument, see Brin's Glory Season-- one of the reasons women are in charge is that men think they ought to be good at everything and don't get the advantages of specialization.
I think he could. Remember, he was a lieutenant in the navy, and a lifetime is enough to pick up most of those skills (although I suppose it might be hard to prove that you could plan an invasion or die gallantly). Certainly most of the people here could change a diaper, plan a building, write a (bad) sonnet, take & give orders, pitch manure, program a computer, and cook a tasty meal.
I'll arrive in BRC on Tuesday night. I'm part of camp cryo, which I'm pretty sure will be around 9:30 and E. The camp is about liquid nitrogen ice cream, not cryonics. Look for the reflective geodesic dome with an electroluminescent ice cream cone on top. Most of my burner friends don't know my screenname so ask for Geoff.
I guess the east-coast version.
Heinlein also had a thing for redheads....
“A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.” ~ Robert Heinlein
Do you think Mr. Heinlein could do all this stuff? I do think he could. I most certainly can't.
In celebration of the virtues of applied rationality, Less Wrong is going to Burning Man! And because Heinlein rationalists should win, Bayes Camp is going to be the most awesome place there.
A bunch of people from SingInst/Less Wrong will be descending upon the desert, bedecked as the members of the Bayesian Conspiracy. Kevin, Jasen, JustinShovelain, Peter de Blanc, Michael Vassar and Nick Tarleton, among others, will be there. If you'd like to stop by, say so in the comments!
We'll be at 6:50, F, and should be there from Monday 30th.
Please note: Burning Man is serious stuff, and if you don’t think you’re up to the desert, you shouldn’t come. Either way, read the survival guide.
EDIT: updated location