Apprentice comments on Luminosity (Twilight fanfic) discussion thread - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Apprentice 29 August 2010 11:37:41AM 9 points [-]

Well, this Bella is an Alicornist - she's introspective and with a problem-solving mentality. In some ways, this fic is a better sell for Alicornism than HP:MOR (which I also like) is for EY's ideas. For one thing, Bella feels like a perfectly plausible 17 year old girl. She's not a prodigy and doesn't have any active magical abilities. It's easy to identify with her and the fic plausibly shows her as the equal of very powerful supernatural beings, just by virtue of adhering to Alicornism.

Comment author: Alicorn 29 August 2010 01:09:22PM 10 points [-]

I feel like the word for someone who practices my general belief system should be "unicorn".

Comment author: Apprentice 29 August 2010 10:23:39PM 8 points [-]

So mote it be! Bella is not only a sparkly vampire - she is also a unicorn. Take that, Twilight haters!

Comment author: wedrifid 29 August 2010 01:19:37PM 4 points [-]

I feel like the word for someone who practices my general belief system should be "unicorn".

So if I adopted your beliefs that would mean only virgins could touch me? Sounds like that would lead to a LOT of one night stands! ;)

Comment author: Strange7 03 February 2014 06:35:32PM *  0 points [-]

In the short term, maybe. I suspect one would sooner or later acquire encyclopedic knowledge of what "doesn't count." http://oglaf.com/nightfall/2/ (NSFW)

Comment author: Nornagest 03 February 2014 07:10:07PM 1 point [-]

Might want to tag that NSFW, for the benefit of the three people here who haven't been exposed to Oglaf yet.

Comment author: katydee 29 August 2010 12:11:47PM 1 point [-]

"Alicornist?" "Alicornism?" Can we try not to use these sorts of terms?

Comment author: Apprentice 29 August 2010 12:19:39PM 5 points [-]

I meant "Alicornist" as a, perhaps slightly playful, shorthand for "person who adheres to [some important subset of] the ideas of Less Wrong user Alicorn as laid out in her sequence on living luminously". If this terminology is felt to be unclear, offensive or objectionable in some other way, I am certainly willing to not use it again. I'd appreciate an explanation, though.

Comment author: katydee 29 August 2010 05:29:06PM *  7 points [-]

Well, first off, the terms "luminous" and "luminosity" already exist and serve the same purpose, so it's needlessly confusing to invent new terms that mean the same thing or close to the same thing. Secondly, identifying yourself or others with terms at all is generally undesirable, as it promotes several irrational thought processes. I'm actually in the process of writing a top-level post on this subject, and that has me in focus mode, so apologies if I seem unnecessarily picky.

Comment author: JulianMorrison 02 September 2010 12:41:53PM 1 point [-]

the terms "luminous" and "luminosity" already exist and serve the same purpose

And they're worse. Specifically they are ingroup jargon with a well known outgroup meaning that looks somewhere between an amusing non-sequitur and arrogant. "You're claiming to glow?"

<Person>ist is at least a recognizable English language template.

Comment author: Alicorn 02 September 2010 12:56:50PM *  3 points [-]

Given that "alicorn" is a word, I think "Alicornist" is also ingroup jargon. You'd have to know who I am to understand it. Otherwise it's "do you worship unicorn horns or something?"

Comment author: JulianMorrison 02 September 2010 01:04:27PM 1 point [-]

It's a word that I had to Google, and I have a medium-large vocabulary. "Luminous" is not. You are third in the search results. I think it would easily be seen as a name.

Comment author: thomblake 02 September 2010 09:33:51PM 2 points [-]

You are third in the search results

Don't forget about Google's annoying tendency to give you relevant search results.

Our Alicorn is second, third, sixth, and seventh on the search results for Alicorn here, not counting "in your social circle".

Comment author: Alicorn 02 September 2010 09:54:13PM *  3 points [-]

Our Alicorn

Awww, warmfuzzies :)

Comment author: ancientcampus 03 February 2014 05:21:19PM 0 points [-]

Using "Startpage.com" (which runs anonymous google searches - useful for getting non-personalized results), I got:

Alicorn - results #9 and #10 (behind lots of My Little Pony) Luminosity - result #4, which is pretty good given the brain-training game of the same name.

Comment author: wedrifid 03 February 2014 05:32:44PM 2 points [-]

Alicorn - results #9 and #10 (behind lots of My Little Pony) Luminosity - result #4, which is pretty good given the brain-training game of the same name.

The brain training game is Lumosity.