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How hard a surface is necessary? If vampires can cut diamonds then there's nothing on earth capable of holding one.
It's not specified in canon. I'm going to rule that a newborn vampire can bite through a diamond. (Teeth are special-sharp, plus venom.)
It just has to slow them down enough that a system (automated or not) could detect the escape attempt and initiate explodey explodeyness.
So even comparatively cheap strong materials may be good enough for a prison so long as it slows them down sufficiently.
Oh, all this thinking about stuff that hurts vamps... Why is vamp venom the only stuff that leaves scars? Shouldn't it, at most, do nothing of note to them? (especially if pretty much all their bodily fluids are replaced with it?)
I'm kind of bewildered about that too, to be honest; it just came out of canon. Handwave: it's foreign venom. It's like a small local immune response. (This meshes with a bit from Bree Tanner about someone licking her severed arm to let it knit back to its original location smoothly. No scarring is suggested to happen to this girl from her own venom.)
Hrm... So a vamp that has damage from other vamp venom could heal themselves by essentially ripping away the part of themselves that's damaged and licking the wound?
Also, makes me wonder what would happen if someone tried to vampify a vamp. ie, collect venom in strong syrenge, vampire jams it into lots of places in target vamp (hence strong syrenge) injecting the foreign venom, etc. Nothing interesting? lots of scars? Vampire dies? Becomes a vampire^2? (call them "revamped"?))
I'd assume that if you had a syringe that could do this you'd just get scars. Vampires don't have functioning circulatory systems; the venom couldn't get far.
Well, vampire venom is presumably responsible for the regenerative healing. If foreign venom performs the usual regeneration, but does it incorrectly, then the original regenerative mechanism might not recognize that there was still damage to repair.
This suggests that a venom scar might be repaired by inflicting ordinary damage on the same spot. But there would likely be a time limit for this procedure, since the original regeneration system would update to the new shape. (If it did work this way, the time limit would almost certainly be equal to the duration of turning.)
That doesn't strictly follow. It does mean that you wouldn't be able to hold them without restricting their movement.
Right, of course. But that'll take some astonishingly strong shackles.
Or very strong but astonishingly sharp shackles, which are all held above a bed of coals...
And none of these are feasible without either the vampire's own cooperation or another vampire to attach the restraints.
Nor is it feasible to put handcuffs on a guy who is wielding an AK47, without the gunman's own cooperation or a vampire to attach the restraints. I'm just noting that there are in fact things on earth capable of holding one, if that is what you really want to do.
Although come to think of it it is feasible to hold a vampire without vampiric cooperation. You just need to calibrate the size of your frag grenate suitably. (ie. Enough to dismember from a distance but not enough that associated heat would burn them.)
In conclusion... Lex Luthor would totally kick Edward's ass. No kryptonite required.
Not sure; I'm not that familiar with the Twilight canon. Perhaps someone with more knowledge of said canon can say what their best feats in this regard are?