Vaniver comments on Luminosity (Twilight fanfic) discussion thread - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vaniver 02 November 2010 02:34:34AM *  2 points [-]

Put in a separate post: I am strongly considering writing a top-level post about the failings of utilitarianism, because I see that as very strongly linked to Bella's scope failure (the utilitarian goal is the Volturi gone, thus I should eradicate the Volturi). I'll also write it for people, not for fictional characters, if that's a worry.

If you are interested in seeing my thoughts on the matter, vote this up; if disinterested, vote this down. (But not negative, please, my karma is tiny!)

Comment author: Alicorn 02 November 2010 03:00:48AM 2 points [-]

I would strongly prefer that my characters not be used as examples in non-fiction didactic works at least until I announce that I have finished with the story. (I currently expect Radiance to be the last work I do in the universe.)

Comment author: Vaniver 02 November 2010 03:11:39AM 0 points [-]

Understood and anticipated, though I certainly could have been clearer. I would write what I know- anarchism- not what I don't know- your characters.

Comment author: Eneasz 02 November 2010 03:00:00AM 0 points [-]

This is a reply deep in a thread on a relatively old post, you won't likely get many people that even see this request. :) If you're nervous about publishing a top-level post, at least float something on the discussion side. I agree that utilitarianism is severely flawed. My reason is that humans simply don't have enough computing power to ever implement utilitarianism decently, it would take an entity with orders of magnitude more intellectual strength to be a utilitarian with falling into a Bella spiral.

Deontology that is steered by utilitarian goals and occasionally modified by utilitarian analysis, OTOH, seems very workable and keeps the best of utilitarianism while factoring for human realities (but I've been plugging Desirism for a while now).

Comment author: Vaniver 02 November 2010 03:19:49AM *  0 points [-]

If you're nervous about publishing a top-level post, at least float something on the discussion side.

That indeed looks exactly like what I was looking for: I had seen people use the pattern I modeled reading through comments, which were probably from before that got implemented.