woozle comments on Criteria for Rational Political Conversation - Less Wrong

-5 Post author: woozle 26 August 2010 03:53PM

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Comment author: Perplexed 26 August 2010 06:26:12PM 4 points [-]

Suggestion: Supply links explaining references. You can't achieve common knowledge unless you have common priors.

Comment author: woozle 26 August 2010 06:35:17PM 0 points [-]

I can certainly attempt that. I considered doing so originally, but thought it would be too much like "explaining the joke" (a process notorious for efficient removal of humor). I also had this idea that the references were so ubiquitous by now that they were borderline cliche. I'm glad to discover that this is not the case... I think.

Comment author: Perplexed 26 August 2010 06:51:00PM 1 point [-]

Two years ago, I wouldn't have gotten the brontosaurus reference. I got it today only because last year someone happened to include "Anne Elk" in their reference and that provided enough context for a successful Google. There are no ubiquitous references.

That said, cata has a point too, as do you with the thing about explaining jokes. Like everything else in successful communication, it comes down to a balancing act.

Comment author: woozle 26 August 2010 09:47:50PM 0 points [-]

Yes, I agree, it's a balancing act.

My take on references I don't get is either to ignore them, to ask someone ("hey, is this a reference to something? I don't get why they said that."), or possibly to Google it if looks Googleable.

I don't think it should be a cause for penalty unless the references are so heavy that they interrupt the flow of the argument. It's possible that I did that, but I don't think I did.

Comment author: saturn 26 August 2010 11:28:15PM 2 points [-]

The problem is that the references have such a strained connection to what you're talking about that they are basically non sequiturs whether you understand them or not.