enoonsti comments on Cryonics Questions - Less Wrong

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Comment author: enoonsti 28 August 2010 06:41:34AM 0 points [-]

"negative affect of being trapped in a dystopia"


Jack: "I've got the Super Glue for Yvain. I'm on my way back."

Chloe: "Hurry, Jack! I've just run the numbers! All of our LN2 suppliers were taken out by the dystopia!"

Freddie Prinze Jr: "Don't worry, Chloe. I made my own LN2, and we can buy some time for Yvain. But I'm afraid the others will have to thaw out and die. Also, I am sorry for starring in Scooby Doo and getting us cancelled."

- Jack blasts through wall, shoots Freddie, and glues Yvain back together -

Jack: "Welcome, Yvain. I am an unfriendly A.I. that decided it would be worth it just to revive you and go FOOM on your sorry ass."

(Jack begins pummeling Yvain)

(room suddenly fills up with paper clips)

Comment author: katydee 29 August 2010 02:41:42AM 4 points [-]

This is one of the worst examples that I've ever seen. Why would a paperclip maximizer want to revive someone so they could see the great paperclip transformation? Doing so uses energy that could be allocated to producing paperclips, and paperclip maximizers don't care about most human values, they care about paperclips.

Comment author: enoonsti 29 August 2010 02:46:14AM *  1 point [-]

That was a point I was trying to make ;)

I should have ended off with (/sarcasm)

Comment author: katydee 29 August 2010 02:51:34AM 1 point [-]

I think the issue is that the dystopia we're talking about here isn't necessarily paperclip maximizer land, which isn't really a dystopia in the conventional sense, as human society no longer exists in such cases. What if it's I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream instead?

Comment author: enoonsti 29 August 2010 03:27:40AM 4 points [-]

Yes, the paper clip reference wasn't the only point I was trying to make; it was just a (failed) cherry on top. I mainly took issue with being revived in the common dystopian vision: constant states of warfare, violence, and so on. It simply isn't possible, given that you need to keep refilling dewars with LN2 and so much more; in other words, the chain of care would be disrupted, and you would be dead long before they found a way to resuscitate you.

And that leaves basically only a sudden "I Have No Mouth" scenario; i.e. one day it's sunny, Alcor is fondly taking care of your dewar, and then BAM! you've been resuscitated by that A.I. I guess I just find it unlikely that such an A.I. will say: "I will find Yvain, resuscitate him, and torture him." It just seems like a waste of energy.

Comment author: thomblake 29 August 2010 03:55:37AM 0 points [-]

Upvoted for making a comment that promotes paperclips.