timtyler comments on Cryonics Questions - Less Wrong

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Comment author: timtyler 29 August 2010 01:02:45PM *  0 points [-]

"We"? You mean: you and me, baby? Or are you asking after a prediction about whether something like CEV will beat the other philosophies about what to do with an intelligent machine?

CEV is an alien document from my perspective. It isn't like anything I would ever write.

It reminds me a bit of the ideal of democracy - where the masses have a say in running things.

I tend to see the world as more run by the government and its corporations - with democracy acting like a smokescreen for the voters - to give them an illusion of control, and to prevent them from revolting.

Also, technology has a long history of increasing wealth inequality - by giving the powerful controllers and developers of the technology ever more means of tracking and controlling those who would take away their stuff.

That sort of vision is not so useful as an election promise to help rally the masses around a cause - but then, I am not really a politician.

Comment author: Strange7 29 November 2014 09:42:24PM 0 points [-]

with democracy acting like a smokescreen for the voters - to give them an illusion of control, and to prevent them from revolting.

Voting prevents revolts in the same sense that a hydroelectric dam prevents floods. It's not a matter of stopping up the revolutionary urge; in fact, any attempt to do so would be disastrous sooner or later. Instead it provides a safe, easy channel, and in the process, captures all the power of the movement before that flow can build up enough to cause damage.

The voters can have whatever they want, and the rest of the system does it's best to stop them from wanting anything dangerous.