PhilGoetz comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 3 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 31 August 2010 03:43:18PM *  8 points [-]

It struck me as odd that Harry was repulsed by the idea of the Sorting Hat losing consciousness, then regaining consciousness (or being "reborn" as a somewhat different entity) repeatedly. Seemed a lot like falling asleep and waking up.

I would have thought that the additional creation of more consciousness, which seemed to be enjoying itself or at least not suffering, would just be added utility to the universe. Then I remembered that Eliezer is an average utilitarian. Which raises the question: Would an average utilitarian average together utility per life, or utility per second?

It doesn't feel right to say, "We must deny these potential entities life, even though they would enjoy it and not be taking any resources away from any other entities - indeed, most likely increasing the utility of those other people they talked with - because they will harm our average utility score." It reminds me of a student who won't take any classes they can't get an A in.

Comment author: wedrifid 31 August 2010 04:43:21PM 4 points [-]

It struck me as odd that Harry was repulsed by the idea of the Sorting Hat losing consciousness, then regaining consciousness (or being "reborn" as a somewhat different entity) repeatedly. Seemed a lot like falling asleep and waking up.

"Odd" or "typical of the kind of superficial moral reasoning Harry usually employs but essentially completely arbitrary"?

Comment author: PhilGoetz 31 August 2010 06:29:02PM 2 points [-]

I wasn't modeling Harry, so just odd.