komponisto comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 3 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: komponisto 31 August 2010 06:39:51PM 7 points [-]

Is stupid moral oversimplification necessary in a mass-market bestseller? E.g., Tolkien, Star Wars.

His Dark Materials is a possible counterexample.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 31 August 2010 07:22:56PM 5 points [-]

I haven't read past the first book; but in the first book, the bad guys are really obscenely bad. Calling God a bad guy doesn't make it morally ambiguous, if God is really bad in the story.

Comment author: komponisto 31 August 2010 07:29:23PM 5 points [-]

Well, there's a reason I named the trilogy rather than the first book.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 31 August 2010 08:03:34PM 4 points [-]

Perhaps I'll read the next book, then!

Comment author: Will_Newsome 06 September 2010 08:54:27PM 0 points [-]

I strongly recommend His Dark Materials for relaxation reading. Book 1 was meh, but book 2 is good and book 3 is beautiful. It's lightly peppered with good rationality. Will in particular thinks pretty clearly.

Comment author: CronoDAS 06 September 2010 07:00:32PM 1 point [-]

Yes, they're bad, but they have justifications for why they're doing everything. (They're horribly mistaken about the consequences of what they're trying to do, but most of them honestly believe in their cause.) And you get to hear their explanations first, before Lord Asriel gets to speak - and when Lyra finally meets up with him at the end of the first book, the first thing he does is pretty horrible.