wedrifid comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 3 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 01 September 2010 02:37:13PM *  3 points [-]

That wouldn't work at all. Slytherin wouldn't be Slytherin without any Slytherin kids there. Maybe it could be made to work with a lot of additional adjustments, but the result probably wouldn't be much like the house system you describe.

You don't think you could take a bunch of young humans and mould them into selfish, Machiavellian, politically minded, corruptible schemers?

Of all the houses I suggest Slytherin is the most natural! Making Slytherins into Hufflepuffs, now that would be a challenge.

Comment author: FAWS 02 September 2010 06:24:05AM 0 points [-]

You don't think you could take a bunch of young humans and mould them into selfish, Machiavellian, politically minded, corruptible schemers?

You could - "with a lot of additional adjustments". You would to have to actually work at turning them into Slytherins, and doubly so if there are no natural Slytherins there at all to lead the way. And probably not everyone anyway.

Comment author: wedrifid 02 September 2010 06:29:35AM 2 points [-]

You could - "with a lot of additional adjustments". You would to have to actually work at turning them into Slytherins, and doubly so if there are no natural Slytherins there at all to lead the way. And probably not everyone anyway.

My claim is that most humans outside of fairy tales already are Slytherins.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 02 September 2010 08:12:07AM 3 points [-]

And Gryffindors, Hufflepuffs, and Ravenclaws.

Comment author: wedrifid 02 September 2010 08:15:53AM 0 points [-]

I seem to have a somewhat more cynical outlook. Judging real humans by the criteria of the sorting hat would result in far more Slytherins than members for the other houses.

Comment author: Emile 02 September 2010 03:23:25PM 0 points [-]

Even if you take 'em when they're kids?

Comment author: FAWS 02 September 2010 06:36:10AM 1 point [-]

If that were so it would defeat the whole point of placing anyone in Slytherin to become one. And my point would still hold for the other houses.

Comment author: wedrifid 02 September 2010 07:28:01AM 0 points [-]

If that were so it would defeat the whole point of placing anyone in Slytherin to become one.

Yes, more or less. Unless there is some reason you want people to become better Slytherin.