NihilCredo comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 3 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: NihilCredo 07 October 2010 09:38:12PM 1 point [-]

Yeah, after seeing this responses I did a bit of looking around and I acknowledge that it is apparently quite frowned upon, at least in English prose (to the point of having a name: "said-bookisms").

No matter how many compared examples I read, after trying hard to "blank" my mind beforehand, I still find myself liking the "exorted/rebuffed/pressed/" version over the "said/said/said" more, so I'm probably just a statistical anomaly.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 07 October 2010 11:05:53PM 2 points [-]

Another way to check would be to see whether there are well-loved stories which engage in said-bookism.

The idea that authors ought eschew synonyms for "said" might merely be a theory which works fairly well, but doesn't reliably cover the range of what people like in their fiction.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 08 October 2010 07:14:00AM 7 points [-]

That comment was based on CS Lewis' An Experiment in Criticism-- the argument is that any fiction which attracts devoted rereading has something going for it, and it's better to evaluate fiction by the sort of reading it gets rather than evaluating readers by whether they like the right fiction.

This was published in 1961-- I think the idea of dethroning official lists of Great Books was more revolutionary then.

See also his High and Low Brows, which argues that the only reliable difference between high and low status art is that high status art is more difficult to appreciate, with the clinching argument being the likes of Shakespeare, Dickens, and Mozart becoming high status as they become less accessible.

He further argues that both high and low status art have good and bad features and should be evaluated by the same standards.