lukeprog comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 3 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 30 August 2010 07:00:20AM *  1 point [-]

I'm sure that story could be a hit! Just not in this Everett branch.

It sounds interesting enough in this branch too. :)

Mind you I think I was one of the nerds I'd be rather adamant that I wasn't to be involved in any practice of "kino escalation"!

Comment author: lukeprog 11 May 2011 06:58:16PM *  3 points [-]

An aside on 'kino escalation'...

The term seems to have been invented by a 'pickup artist' (probably Mystery) because they didn't bother to look up the standard term for communication with touch: haptic communication or 'haptics.'

In the seduction community, 'kino' is short for 'kinesthetics', but unfortunately for the pickup community, kinesthetics is the study of the inner awareness of movement (similar to proprioception), not the study of communication with touch.

Comment author: Vaniver 11 May 2011 07:18:37PM 2 points [-]

Another aside: does anyone else find a lot of the picture choices on wikipedia bizarre and/or disturbing? Both of the ones on the haptic communication article are pretty strong examples.

Comment author: wedrifid 11 May 2011 07:41:49PM -1 points [-]

Bizarre certainly.

Comment author: FrF 11 May 2011 08:38:12PM 0 points [-]

"As an aside" re: Mystery -- I admit to being fascinated with his contribution to a Neil Strauss seminar. (It distills Mystery's theories as found in his own book and in Strauss' bestseller.) Mystery's a skilled didactitian although I remember that when I watched the video a second time a couple of his points did lose a bit of their persuasiveness. The PU literature also shows how deeply Evolutionary Psychology has penetrated the popular consciousness, albeit with at least some degree of -- pun intended in this case -- vulgarizations. For those of you who are interested, the video I'm referring to can be found at YouTube with the following search: "Mystery Neil's Annihilation Method DVD".

Comment author: wedrifid 11 May 2011 07:38:24PM *  0 points [-]

The term seems to have been invented by a 'pickup artist' (probably Mystery) because they didn't bother to look up the standard term for communication with touch: haptic communication or 'haptics.'

What a hideous sounding name, at least in the context of doing it to another person. One would hope that if the mistaken word use was not adopted that they just minted a new one for themselves!

kinesthetics is the study of the inner awareness of movement (similar to proprioception), not the study of communication with touch.

The nature of what caused the original error may perhaps be better traced to the concept of kinesthetic learning. While still obviously mistaken in the way it has been adopted, the 'learning styles' categorization is more accessible to popular culture and also doesn't imply inner awareness of the process.