xamdam comments on Less Wrong: Open Thread, September 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 01 September 2010 04:34:46PM 7 points [-]

I haven't read Nicholas Carr, but I've seen summaries of some of the studies used to claim that book reading results in more comprehension than hypertext reading. All the ones I saw are bogus. They all use, for the hypertext reading, a linear extract from a book, broken up into sections separated by links. Sometimes the links are placed in somewhat arbitrary places. Of course a linear text can be read more easily linearly.

I believe hypertext reading is deeper, and that this is obvious, almost true by definition. Non-hypertext reading is exactly 1 layer deep. Hypertext lets the reader go deeper. Literally. You can zoom in on any topic.

A more fair test would be to give students a topic to study, with the same material, but some given books, and some given the book material organized and indexed in a competent way as hypertext.

Wide and deep reading, such that you make the information presented yours, gives you more background knowledge that helps you find your own connections.

Hypertext reading lets you find your own connections, and lets you find background knowledge that would otherwise simply be edited out of a book.

Comment author: xamdam 01 September 2010 08:55:10PM 3 points [-]

I believe hypertext reading is deeper, and that this is obvious, almost true by definition. Non-hypertext reading is exactly 1 layer deep. Hypertext lets the reader go deeper. Literally. You can zoom in on any topic.

It has deeper structure, but that is not necessarily user-friendly. A great textbook will have different levels of explanation, an author-designed depth-diving experience. Depending on author, material, you and the local wikipedia quality that might be a better or worse learning experience.

Hypertext reading lets you find your own connections, and lets you find background knowledge that would otherwise simply be edited out of a book.

Yep, definitely a benefit, but not without a trade-off. Often a good author will set you up with connections better than you can.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 20 September 2010 04:14:35PM 0 points [-]

Often a good author will set you up with connections better than you can.

But not better than a good hypertext author can.

Comment author: xamdam 20 September 2010 06:31:37PM 0 points [-]

If the hypertext is intentionally written as a book, which is generally not the case.