XiXiDu comments on Less Wrong: Open Thread, September 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: XiXiDu 27 September 2010 11:41:39AM 4 points [-]

What is necessary is just that EY thinks about a way how to tell people why something had to be deleted without referring to what has been deleted in detail and why they should trust him on that. I see that freedom of speech has to end somewhere. Are we going to publish detailed blueprints for bio weapons? No. I just don't see how EY wants to accomplish that as in the case of the Roko incident you cannot even talk about what has been deleted in a abstract way.

Convince me not to spread the original posts and comments as much as I can? How are you going to do that? I already posted another comment yesterday with the files that I deleted again after thinking about it. This is just too far and fuzzy for me to not play with the content in question without thinking twice.

What I mean is that I personally have no problem with censorship, if I can see why it had to be done.

Comment author: khafra 27 September 2010 03:42:04PM 5 points [-]

I've been thinking about it by moving domains: Imagine that, instead of communicating by electromagnetic or sound waves, we encoded information into the DNA of custom microbes and exchanged them. Would there be any safe way to talk about even the specifics of why a certain bioweapon couldn't be discussed?

I don't think there is. At some point in weaponized conversation, there's a binary choice between inflicting it on people and censoring it.

Comment author: Alicorn 27 September 2010 03:43:16PM 5 points [-]

Imagine that, instead of communicating by electromagnetic or sound waves, we encoded information into the DNA of custom microbes and exchanged them.

Like the descoladores!

Comment author: khafra 27 September 2010 04:19:06PM 0 points [-]

Hah, I didn't realize someone else had already imagined it. Generalizing from multiple, independently-generated fictional evidence?

Comment author: XiXiDu 27 September 2010 06:56:13PM 2 points [-]

Awesome reply, thanks :-)

Didn't know about this either, thanks Alicorn.

I wonder how the SIAI is going to resolve that problem if it caused nightmares inside the SIAI itself. Is EY going to solve it all by himself? If he was going to discuss it, then with whom, since he doesn't know who's strong enough beforehand? That's just crazy. Time will end soon anyway, so why worry I guess. Bye.