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Comment author: AlexMennen 05 September 2010 07:20:33PM 11 points [-]

I dispute the inclusion of anger at government policies as useful criticism. Any problem in government can only be suboptimal relative to a different set of policies, and as such, criticism of government should come with an argument that a solution is possible. For example, many voters oppose deficits, oppose tax increases, and say that they favor spending cuts, but will tend to oppose the overwhelming majority of possible cuts when individual expensive government programs are named. Criticism without suggestion from someone who would criticize any possible solution is useless.

Comment author: Will_Sawin 05 September 2010 09:21:48PM 7 points [-]

Right. It seems like to synthesize your point and the post we would need to say that, in evaluating a criticism, we should consider not:

Do we know of a solution to this problem?

but

Can we prove that there is no solution to this problem?

The second type of problem, we must live with. The first type, we should devote some resources to thinking about.

Comment author: soreff 06 September 2010 12:21:24AM *  5 points [-]

Nicely put! If a theist announces their revelation that pi is 3, and demands of me what two integers I take as pi's numerator and denominator, the best response is a proof that no such pair exists.

I do agree with AlexMennen that for an optimization problem this isn't adequate. One doesn't have to display an optimal solution, but one at least needs to show that there is something like a direction in which one can move which is clearly an improvement. To address SarahC's example of government corruption - It isn't sufficient to show that the corruption does damage. One also has to show that, for instance, more vigorous enforcement of anti-corruption laws won't do more damage.