Scott78704 comments on A "Failure to Evaluate Return-on-Time" Fallacy - Less Wrong

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Comment author: mattnewport 07 September 2010 08:55:24PM 2 points [-]

I agree, I don't think these kind of 'easy' wins are all that common in real life, certainly not those offering 300x improvements. I would like to see some better examples.

Entrepreneurship / business seems likely to be relatively fertile ground for finding good examples since short term financial gain can often be used as a relatively good proxy for 'success' and is relatively easy to measure. Too much focus on short term financial gain isn't always an optimal strategy even in business however since it may result in getting stuck in local maxima or directly compromising longer term success.

Comment author: Scott78704 08 September 2010 09:58:56PM 5 points [-]

Squatting heavy once a week will make you stronger than almost everyone at almost everything, younger, healthier, leaner, smarter*, richer, prettier; takes about fifteen minutes. How does that compare to your current exercise regimen?

*http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchArticle.action?articleURI=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0000465

**http://download.journals.elsevierhealth.com/pdfs/journals/0197-4580/PIIS0197458005002745.pdf

Comment author: mattnewport 08 September 2010 10:37:35PM 2 points [-]

I was already persuaded by the evidence that strength / weight training is a more time efficient and effective route to overall fitness and health than extensive cardio but I'm not familiar with the specific arguments in favour of squats. The first link doesn't seem to highlight squats specifically and I didn't read the second yet (behind a required registration). Are you saying that heavy squats specifically are dramatically more effective than other approaches?

I haven't had a regular exercise regimen for a while but I'm just starting to try and get back into strength training, mainly focused on body weight exercises as I don't like gyms and I can do them easily at home.

Comment author: Clarity 14 September 2015 11:25:12AM -1 points [-]

Time shouldn't be that much of an issue if you're interested in functional improvements in your strength. I mean, if it's functional, you should be doing it anyway - so just do it more or provide more resistance. For instance, you can put your car sit horizontal, then do situps when you get to traffic lights.

Comment author: gwern 09 September 2010 01:19:55PM 1 point [-]

a mere 20 minutes a week of any physical activity, whether sports, walking, gardening or even housecleaning, the last not usually associated with bringing out the sunshine. The researchers found that more activity conferred more mental-health benefits and that “participation in vigorous sports activities” tended to be the “most beneficial for mental health.” But their overall conclusion was that being active for as little as 20 minutes a week is sufficient, if your specific goal is mental health.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/30/phys-ed-how-much-exercise-to-avoid-feeling-gloomy/

In other words, six minutes or so a week of hard exercise (plus the time spent warming up, cooling down, and resting between the bouts of intense work) had proven to be as good as multiple hours of working out for achieving fitness. The short, intense workouts aided in weight loss, too, although Gibala hadn’t been studying that effect.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/can-you-get-fit-in-six-minutes-a-week/

Comment author: [deleted] 08 September 2010 09:59:52PM 1 point [-]

this is very weird to read on this forum, but yes, it's a good idea.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 09 September 2010 08:10:28PM *  0 points [-]

Your second link is broken, even for people access; worse, it doesn't give the citation. I think that this (ungated, alt) is the study.