John_Maxwell_IV comments on A "Failure to Evaluate Return-on-Time" Fallacy - Less Wrong

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Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 09 September 2010 06:08:45AM 9 points [-]

Status quo bias. And, the average person's gut morality is not consequentialist but virtue ethicist. Working from your gut, you don't profit-maximize, treating your morale as a resource to be spent and refillled. You work until you "deserve" a break.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 09 September 2010 10:11:10PM 4 points [-]

And, the average person's gut morality is not consequentialist but virtue ethicist... You work until you "deserve" a break.

That is a very good point.

I wouldn't have used the word "morality," but I think its use is the key to the situation. If you "work in order to make money," there is nothing moral about the question of how much to work. Partly people work until they "deserve" a break because they don't just work for money, but also to demonstrate virtue. But partly it is that people are confused about moral senses of "should" and instrumental senses of "should"; they rely on the same gut module for both decisions.

Comment author: wedrifid 09 September 2010 06:18:35AM 0 points [-]

And, the average person's gut morality is not consequentialist but virtue ethicist.

This seems at least partly depending on status. Roughly along a "virtue ethicist -> deontologist -> consequentialist" pathway. (With high IQ people more likely to emulate consequentialist morality cognitively.)

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 10 September 2010 03:58:37AM 2 points [-]

And, the average person's gut morality is not consequentialist but virtue ethicist.

This seems at least partly depending on status. Roughly along a "virtue ethicist -> deontologist -> consequentialist" pathway. (With high IQ people more likely to emulate consequentialist morality cognitively.)

Could you elaborate on that, and/or give examples? I suspect that we're talking about completely different things, but I see a lot of high status, high IQ professions like investment banking that seem pretty well described by the idea that the survivors deserve money because they were tough.