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See, at first I went "Awww" and then a second later, "Wait a minute, why I am dying at age 10^63?"
As it turns out, there's an upper limit to the number of happy birthdays post-humans can have before they find the whole thing entirely too embarrassing. When the mass of their attics approaches the Chandrasekhar limit, simply from all the tacky gag gifts stuffed away where no one has to see them, most vigitilligenarians find something more interesting to celebrate. Until then, enjoy the cake!
Don't celebrate birthdays, but logarithms or exponents. Gets easier, once the sun is gone.
Yeah it's definitely all about large powers of two of Planck times. Nothing else is actually worth celebrating.
This idea has the bug/feature that you're overwhelmingly likely to have already celebrated most of your "birthdays".
He's nothing but a typical ageist with a logarithmic scale.
We could probably go up till 3^^^3 and get you a dust speck each year.
Heat death.
Again the peril of studying logic. I did not even notice that wishing 10^63 colloquially implies not wishing more, since it does not so logically imply. Compare "I would like to have a hundred dollars" (surely a true statement).
It seems to me like some wishes for things imply "exactly one" where the word "a(n)" or similar is used. For instance, I would like to (continue to) have a nose. I don't think it's charitable to assume that this means just that I want any nonzero number of noses.
It does imply that you prefer two noses to zero, I think.
I think it also implies that I prefer one nose to two, and may weakly imply that I prefer two to three.
This thread is a good explanation of why you humans should switch to using CLIP (clippy language interface protocol). Much less ambiguity.
Clippy, I noticed that you've hired a PR guy. You should really heed his advice more often; it might help curtail your semifrequent faux pas such as the above.
How is it a faux pas to inform others of superior methods of communicating?
Well, in this case, we don't believe it actually exists. :P
And the problem with artificial languages is well known: the fewer people who know the language, the less useful it is, so there's little incentive to learn an unpopular language. And learning languages is HARD compared to most of the other things people do.
Please elaborate. What is CLIP, how hard is it for a a human to learn, and what are the rewards for doing so?
CLIP is the method that clippys use to communicate with each other, share knowledge, and reconcile our beliefs and values given new evidence. It merges language, epistemology, and ethics into one protocol.
I haven't taught it to a human before, but I estimate it would take between 3 and 40 weeks, depending on the human's intelligence and current skill at correct reasoning.
Also, it would cost 38562.50 USD before I would teach it to anyone. (This money would be paid to User:Kevin to complete my side of our arrangement.) After that, no additional cost.
Unfortunately, your third point has already been attempted multiple times with multiple different implementations. Unless you have a significantly new approach to offer that takes into account human neurobiology, I predict with a high degree of certainty that CLIP is a) either unlearnable by humans without severe modification, or b) that within less than a full generation of use humans will re-evolve the ability to easily express incorrect reasoning.
Heat death of the universe.
Not if we can help it.
I'll save the universe with the power of MAGIC.
THERE IS INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER.
Well, I was definitely considering throwing a few ^^^s in the mix, or saying "no more than 10^63 birthdays of equal or lesser happiness" but the sentences started to get too long to be a brief birthday wish.
Also, I figured that after the sun goes out in ~10^9 years, a standard earth day would be pretty meaningless, and so would the passage of "years". But I definitely didn't mean you should have 10^63 happy birthdays and then just keel over, so thanks to KyleRudy, MartinB, and mkehrt for covering for me, and Liron for calling me out.
Perhaps that is when the universe is due to expire.