CronoDAS comments on Humans are not automatically strategic - Less Wrong

153 Post author: AnnaSalamon 08 September 2010 07:02AM

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Comment author: timtyler 08 September 2010 12:51:58PM *  6 points [-]
Comment author: NancyLebovitz 08 September 2010 06:36:15PM 2 points [-]

Selection pressure might be even weaker a lot of the time than a 3% fitness advantage having a 6% chance of becoming universal in the gene pool, or at least it's more complicated-- a lot of changes don't offer a stable advantage over long periods.


I think natural selection and human intelligence at this point can't really be compared for strength. Each is doing things that the other can't-- afaik, we don't know how to deliberately create organisms which can outcompete their wild conspecifics. (Or is it just that there's no reason to try and/or we have too much sense to do the experiments?)

And we certainly don't know how to deliberately design a creature which could thrive in the wild, though some animals which have been selectively bred for human purposes do well as ferals.

This point may be a nitpick since it doesn't address how far human intelligence can go.


Another example of attribution error: Why would Gimli think that Galadriel is beautiful?


Eliezer made a very interesting claim-- that current hardware is sufficient for AI. Details?

Comment author: CronoDAS 08 September 2010 07:18:19PM 6 points [-]

Another example of attribution error: Why would Gimli think that Galadriel is beautiful?

Why do humans think dolphins are beautiful?

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 08 September 2010 07:21:41PM 13 points [-]

Is a human likely to think that one specific dolphin is so beautiful as to be almost worth fighting a duel about it being the most beautiful?

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 08 September 2010 09:12:32PM 6 points [-]

Well, it's always possible that Gimli was a zoophile.

Comment author: jmmcd 09 September 2010 02:54:10AM 0 points [-]

Yeah, I mean have you seen Dwarven women?

Comment author: Jonathan_Graehl 08 September 2010 10:54:58PM 4 points [-]

I'm a human and can easily imagine being attracted to Galadriel :) I can't speak for dwarves.

Comment author: JohannesDahlstrom 09 September 2010 12:36:13PM 11 points [-]

Well, elves were intelligently designed to specifically be attractive to humans...