Vladimir_Nesov comments on Humans are not automatically strategic - Less Wrong

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Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 09 September 2010 07:07:39AM -1 points [-]

Technological progress makes the average person smarter through environmental improvements, and technological progress is dependent on a very small number of people in society. Let's say the human race had gotten lucky very early on in its history and had a streak of accidental geniuses who were totally unrepresentative of the population as a whole. If those geniuses improved the race's technology substantially, that would improve the environment, cause everyone to become smarter due to genetic factors, and bootstrap the race out of their genetic deficits.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 09 September 2010 01:03:05PM 0 points [-]

I don't see how this note is relevant to either your original argument, or my comment on it.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 10 September 2010 08:02:42AM *  0 points [-]

It's basically a new argument. Would you prefer it if I explicitly demarcated that in the future? I briefly started writing out some sort of concession or disclaimer but it seemed like noise.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 10 September 2010 05:34:28PM 0 points [-]

The problem here is that it's not clear what that comment is argument for, and so the first thing to assume is that it's supposed to be an argument about the discussion it was made in reply to. It's still unclear to me what you argued in that last comment (and why).

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 10 September 2010 07:43:05PM 0 points [-]

Trying to argue against a magical level of average societal genetic intelligence necessary for technological takeoff.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 11 September 2010 06:30:38AM 0 points [-]

You can't get geniuses who are "totally unrepresentative" in the relevant sense, since we are still the same species, with the same mind design.