wedrifid comments on Intellectual Hipsters and Meta-Contrarianism - Less Wrong

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Comment author: timtyler 02 October 2010 11:53:52AM *  -1 points [-]

I'm sorry to hear about your issues with my writing style :-(

I have been consistently capitalising DOOM - and a few related terms - for quite a while. I believe these terms deserve special treatment - in accordance with how important everybody says they are - and ALL-CAPS is the most portable form of emphasis across multiple sites and environments. For the intended pronunciation of phrases like DOOM, SOON, see my DOOM video. It is not shouting. I rate the effect as having net positive value in the context of the intended message - and will put up with your gripes about it.

As for "groupies" - that does seem like an apt term to me. There is the charismatic leader - and then there is his fan base - which seems to have a substantial element of young lads. Few other terms pin down the intended meaning as neatly. I suppose I could have said "young fan base" - if I was trying harder to avoid the possibility of causing offense. Alas, I am poorly motivated to bother with such things. Most of the "insiders" are probably going to hate me anyway - because of my message - and the "us" and "them" tribal mentality.

Did you similarly give Yudkowsky a public ticking-off when he recently delved into the realm of BOLD ALL CAPS combined with ad-hominen insults? His emphasis extended to whole paragraphs - and his insults were considerably more personal - as I recall. Or am I getting special treatment?

Comment author: wedrifid 02 October 2010 01:48:16PM *  6 points [-]

I have been consistently capitalising DOOM - and a few related terms - for quite a while. I believe these terms deserve special treatment - in accordance with how important everybody says they are - and all-caps is the most portable form of emphasis across multiple sites and environments.

May I suggest as a matter of style that "Doom" more accurately represents your intended meaning of specific treatment and usage as a noun that isn't just a description? Since ALL CAPS has the interpretation of mere shouting you fail to communicate your meaning effectively if you use all caps instead of Title Case in this instance. Consider 'End Of The World' as a superior option.

Did you similarly give Yudkowsky a public ticking-off when he recently delved into the realm of BOLD ALL CAPS combined with ad-hominen insults? His emphasis extended to whole paragraphs - and his insults were considerably more personal - as I recall. Or am I getting special treatment?

Let's be honest. If we're going to consider that incident as an admissible tu quoque to any Yudkowskian then we could justify just about any instance of obnoxious social behaviour thereby. I didn't object to your comments here simply because I didn't consider them out of line on their own merits. I would have no qualms about criticising actual bad behaviour just because Eliezer acted like a douche.

Mind you I am not CarlShuman and the relevance of hypocrisy to Carl's attempt of a status slap is far greater than if it was an attempt by me. Even so you could replace "Or am I getting special treatment?" with "Or are you giving me special treatment?" and so reduce the extent that you signal that it is ok to alienate or marginalise you.