NancyLebovitz comments on Intellectual Hipsters and Meta-Contrarianism - Less Wrong

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Comment author: HughRistik 17 November 2010 07:12:41AM *  1 point [-]

This post inspired me to write an article on Feminism, criticism of feminism, and contrarianism over at FeministCritics.org.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 18 November 2011 12:13:29PM *  1 point [-]

I agree with roshni-- it would be better if you made your criticisms as you see them rather than as levels of a signalling game.

From my point of view, the PUA believers have the advantage at LW, and being gently told, no it's wonderful, and the non-wonderful bits (the worst of which I'd never heard of until you brought them up, something I'm never sure you quite believed) don't matter when so much of it is different and being in the brainfog business is best for everyone even though there's no careful way for you to check on the effects on people you're taking charge of for your own good, just leaves me feeling rather hopeless about that part of LW.

A specific example: I think you're one of the people who says that some men in PUA start out misogynistic, but become less so after they've had some success with attracting women. I wonder how they treat the women they're with before they've recovered from misogyny. Those women don't seem to be there in your calculus.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 18 November 2011 12:45:49PM 1 point [-]

As for contrarianism, I think of myself as a second-order curmudgeon. When people talk about how things are getting worse, I push for specific examples rather than just a claim that things are bad. People rarely have anything specific in mind.