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Comment author: [deleted] 14 February 2013 12:41:45AM 0 points [-]

Gale hardly counts as a person.

Comment author: jooyous 14 February 2013 12:56:08AM *  0 points [-]

He definitely isn't in the first book, but he gets person-ier in the sequels. And he is still bettarrr than Edwarrrdd. Or that other dude.

Also! I can have a complicated relationship with a non-person! I think? Like a pet ... turtle?

Comment author: Desrtopa 14 February 2013 01:02:38AM 2 points [-]

You can certainly have a relationship with a non-person, but I think that having a complicated one is likely to imply something worrying.

Comment author: jooyous 14 February 2013 01:10:14AM *  0 points [-]

I haven't actually had these pets, but if you imagine having a pet turtle and a pet chinchilla at the same time, then the chinchilla will probably get more attention because chinchillas require more care. And they're also cuter and fluffier and probably more lively. But the turtle might still need attention or do cute things once in a while and you might think "aww, I should show you more attention" and you won't want to give the turtle away, but you might not spend that much time with it either? Or get frustrated that it's stupid and poops in the wrong place and is boring.

And I guess you can argue that this is all in my mind and not based on anything the turtle directly wants from me, but I feel like those things factor into our interaction anyway, because they change my behavior? Because the turtle can't tell me it doesn't want these things either. "Dude, don't worry about it. Just feed me and stuff."

I guess it says a lot about me that my first example of a complicated relationship is basically just a lot of guilt. Oops.