jimmy comments on Intelligence Amplification Open Thread - Less Wrong

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Comment author: jimmy 15 September 2010 08:14:25PM 2 points [-]

I've taken piracetam and measured the effects on a one dose basis.

I notice more 'clear' thinking, but the measurable part is in terms of action/reaction time. My 'maximum typing rate' (my typing speed when I type a memorized sentence and don't make mistakes) goes up about 10%. My reaction time goes down about 10%.

My guitar playing speed seems to improve by more than 10% (haven't actually measured it). The increase is large enough that my friends can tell that I've taken a 'racetam without me mentioning it. One of the first times I took piracetam I had forgotten about taking it and when I went to play guitar I was shocked and confused until I remembered taking it.

Comment author: jacob_cannell 15 September 2010 08:19:39PM 1 point [-]

That is really interesting jimmy. Is it still legally available in the US? I am motivated now to research it more.

Of course a 10% speed increase isn't earth-shattering and probably doesn't result in anything near a 10% benefit in most tasks, but it's fascinating to me because I wasn't aware that any pharmaceutical could significantly increase speed of thought. Although I guess perhaps some stimulants can, but I've also thought of there effects as increasing alertness more than speed.

Comment author: gwern 15 September 2010 08:29:57PM 3 points [-]

Piracetam is still legal, apparently. smartpowders.com, for example, is still selling it, although note the timer gives you only 2 days. There are other retailers, of course.

Comment author: jimmy 15 September 2010 09:17:21PM 0 points [-]

Wow, that's close timing. The place I previously bought from has already stopped selling it. I gotta stock up now.

Thanks a ton for the warning.

Comment author: gwern 15 September 2010 09:33:18PM 0 points [-]

Wait, they have? I was under the impression that smartpowders.com was the first to be notified.

Comment author: jimmy 15 September 2010 10:33:29PM 1 point [-]

Yeah, but now that I look closer, it looks like it was several months back.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/prima/piracetam.html

Comment author: Kevin 16 September 2010 05:06:03AM 1 point [-]

Yup, bulknutrition.com also stopped selling it months back.

Comment author: jimmy 15 September 2010 09:08:25PM 1 point [-]

It's legal and cheap in the US. I bought 500g for ~$20 if I remember correctly. Aniracetam is similar and also legal and worth playing with. I have a friend that's into MMA and likes taking aniracetam before grappling.

To cut a few snips from a conversation about it: "more free flowing instictual thought processes instead of frantic fleeting moments when it gets intense.."

" id say no more than a 10% improvement, but i will say i felt invincible on ground and pound days when i got on top, it was just so easy to flow and maintain top position... it seemed like it improved timing and sense of body awareness"